(06-26-2022, 09:24 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(06-26-2022, 09:08 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: Agreed although the argument I've heard that abortion is murder implies that it would be murder in that case also, no?

Polls seem to favor the pro-choice viewpoint. Here's one. Personally, I don't believe it should be used as birth control.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/cbs-news-poll...11112.html

Very very few people think that abortion is actually murder.  The people who actually think that and follow through to the logical conclusions are sometimes called absolutists. 

It's just a mental shortcut to say one thing should be treated the same as another even when they are different.  Murder, rape, slavery, and child abuse are all different crimes.  We can call each of them crimes on the individual level without insisting they are the same.  So it should be with abortion.

The question I have for people who think abortion should be legal in cases of rape is, if one thinks that a child in the womb deserves protection, isn't a child that results from a rape still a child?  And therefore deserving of protection?  If that is a child, then how it got there is irrelevant.  

Isn't the unavoidable, fundamental question, is that a child, and as a child does it have any rights?  You can't avoid that question by citing how the child got there.

If it's a child, then abortion is murder.  If it's not a child, then abortion should be legal.  All these efforts to find a compromise solution fail in light of that fundamental question.

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