(08-04-2022, 01:13 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(08-04-2022, 12:27 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I think we all know this, those are usually the ones looking for another job in short order, as Arians has said.  Then there are soe that stick to their board and take the top guy even if its not a big need, as Pederson has stated. That's what most of us hasn't wanted the team to do and it's a breath of fresh air to see this regime not do it like Dave did.  We lost Yawn and Ramsey and Dave went and drafted CJ and Chaisson to fill those needs when you have much better players sitting there.  I'm not buying those guys were at the top of Dave's board when it was our pick, but it was the huge needs.  If you can take the best player each time when it's your pick the rest will work itself out

A. Keim and Arians traded up to take a player to replace Mathieu when he tore his ACL and declined - so that doesn't fit with any notion that Arians doesn't address needs in drafts. He does. (and that's just the first example that springs to mind with him)
 You're just interpreting some soundbite quote as gospel instead of treating it as a general comment on draft philosophy. 


B. Pederson ans Baalke drafted needs with every single early and mid pick except for Muma
In fact Fortner and Conner were blatant needs that they reached for according to many draft analysts as they were selected higher than nearly everyone projected them 
This regime was looking to replace Linder and obtain security for two injured running backs. They needed those guys, they targeted those needs in the draft and even reached a little bit for them. 
Maybe they didn't do it as badly as Caldwell, but it's the same thing. They were just (hopefully) smarter about not reaching too far. We'll see. 

I'm not going to debate it further. Let's just move on in disagreement. I don't need to be right or wrong here, and you clearly won't change your opinion. I'd rather the topic return to focus on Etienne.

It's called when BPA meets need, it happens.  Just because you draft a guy that fits a need doesn't mean you didn't follow and trust your board.  When players keep coming off the board and a guy falls and he is at the top of your board and he fits a need why not trade up if you have him rated high enough and the picks to do so.

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