(08-12-2022, 01:38 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:

(08-11-2022, 11:28 PM)Eric1 Wrote: RB and TE were better in 2011, WRs were slightly better in 2021 (and that's only because of Marvin). Defense was better in 2011 and the all around Coaching was a million times better in 2011.

Gabbert was a fish out of water in 2011 and it was easy to see. He didn't show anything but the ability to chuck and duck. I don't really care what the numbers say, the eye test shows they're nothing a like besides their height and blonde hair.

Also the fact that you continue to think there's only two sides of opinion on Lawrence from this past season is some of the dumbest [BLEEP] I've ever seen dude. The sides simply aren't just "Lawrence was good, or Lawrence was bad" like you continue to go on about.

What does the defense in 2011 have to do with both QBs playing about the same in terms of production. We aren't talking about wins, cause again Gabbert in less games played had more wins.. but that's a team stat. 

You're right, Gabbert was a fish out of water in 2011. So was Lawrence, and your blind homerisim is the only thing keeping you from admitting it. Maybe it was all urban meyers fault that Trevor looked unprepared. But he was, regardless. He wasn't going to have a good season whether he was on the jags, pats, bucs.. it didn't matter, he wasnt ready last year.

And you're right, this isn't a "he's good, or he's bad discussion".. this is a realistic take on his rookie year, vs blind homerism. He did not play well most of last season, realisticly his only good game was the last game and it was only good by his standards, very average amongst good quarterbacks.