(08-14-2022, 10:07 AM)CanDoBetter Wrote:

(08-14-2022, 09:26 AM)Bullseye Wrote: Curious.  Do "generational talents" at QB never throw incompletions. interceptions, etc?

Do generational talents at QBs NOT require development?

Do generational talents at QB NOT require sufficient surrounding talent and coaching to start to look the part?

Not "jumping on you" per se, but I'm starting to wonder if the descriptor "generational talent" is affecting the analysis.

That descriptor is supposed to be there for a reason. If Lawrence is a new Andy Dalton or whatever barely adequate starter I would be very dissappointed considering what he was sold as. Wouldn't you?

Now, I think it's too early to say but this season is going to be very important for the narrative. Lawrence needs to be significantly better than last year. I'm sure he will be better but how much better? 

There are a couple of posters who want to be first to designate him a bust but mindless homerism isn't much better. The latter is IMO fueled by the 'generational talent'-label.

A few questions

1.  Could Hall of Fame level QBs be considered generational talents at the position?

2.  Is Peyton Manning a Hall of Fame caliber QB?

3.  Is Brett Favre a Hall of fame Caliber QB?

4.  Is Troy Aikman a Hall of Fame caliber QB?

5.  Is Steve Young a Hall of fame caliber QB?

6.  Did any of the above listed QBs have early struggles?

Agreed that mindless homerism doesn't help matters at all.  Yes if TL became Andy Dalton, it would be disappointing.  But by the same token, expecting absolute perfection on every single pass isn't helpful, either.  There are things other than QB mechanics that can have an impact on QB accuracy or the perception of QB accuracy.

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