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Impressions From the Browns Preseason Game

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(08-14-2022, 12:20 PM)JagsorDie Wrote:
(08-14-2022, 10:07 AM)CanDoBetter Wrote: That descriptor is supposed to be there for a reason. If Lawrence is a new Andy Dalton or whatever barely adequate starter I would be very dissappointed considering what he was sold as. Wouldn't you?

Now, I think it's too early to say but this season is going to be very important for the narrative. Lawrence needs to be significantly better than last year. I'm sure he will be better but how much better? 

There are a couple of posters who want to be first to designate him a bust but mindless homerism isn't much better. The latter is IMO fueled by the 'generational talent'-label.

The problem with that sentiment in that the phrase “generational talent” is almost always brought into the discussion by the person arguing against these “homers”, as you call them, typically as a crutch to support their rationale behind why they are interpreting his stats the way they do. 

If they are ever presented with a reason as to why certain stats can be explained(and not excused) they lean on the fact some media talking heads labeled him as generational talent during the draft.

Its not often you see these “homers” hanging on every stat trying to beat the “generational talent” drum.
Not only that, but generational talent does not mean, nor has it ever meant every throw is perfect or flawless.

In talking about this overthrow, we are discussing one throw in twelve.  We are talking two in twelve if we add in the missed corner route in the end zone.

ChrisJagBoy has harped on the number of INTs Lawrence threw in his rookie year (17).

While that certainly was not ideal, it's also far from the worst a QB could muster.

Brett Favre had SEVEN (7) seasons with at least 18 or more INTs, and he managed a pretty good career.  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/p...vrBr00.htm

Peyton Manning had FIVE (5)  such seasons https://www.pro-football-reference.com/p...nnPe00.htm
 

Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!





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RE: Impressions From the Browns Preseason Game - by Bullseye - 08-14-2022, 12:31 PM



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