(08-14-2022, 12:31 PM)Bullseye Wrote:

(08-14-2022, 12:20 PM)JagsorDie Wrote: The problem with that sentiment in that the phrase “generational talent” is almost always brought into the discussion by the person arguing against these “homers”, as you call them, typically as a crutch to support their rationale behind why they are interpreting his stats the way they do. 

If they are ever presented with a reason as to why certain stats can be explained(and not excused) they lean on the fact some media talking heads labeled him as generational talent during the draft.

Its not often you see these “homers” hanging on every stat trying to beat the “generational talent” drum.

Not only that, but generational talent does not mean, nor has it ever meant every throw is perfect or flawless.

In talking about this overthrow, we are discussing one throw in twelve.  We are talking two in twelve if we add in the missed corner route in the end zone.

ChrisJagBoy has harped on the number of INTs Lawrence threw in his rookie year (17).

While that certainly was not ideal, it's also far from the worst a QB could muster.

Brett Favre had SEVEN (7) seasons with at least 18 or more INTs, and he managed a pretty good career.  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/p...vrBr00.htm

Peyton Manning had FIVE (5)  such seasons https://www.pro-football-reference.com/p...nnPe00.htm

Piggybacking on this INT narrative a bit. 

When a rookie QB is forced to operate from a playbook not suited to his strength and stage of development, and is playing from behind early and often in nearly every game, and is subsequently forced to take shots to come back on the scoreboard, this INT number appears less and less egregious. 

Context is SOOOO important when evaluating his rookie year. 
The kid was in a near impossible situation. 

This is the last time I'll post this, but I feel it's a very revealing subset of stats and folks are ignoring it to a degree.
I think the tweet below demonstrates TL's effectiveness/efficiency potential when he's not being asked to do too much, and I think he now has a staff around him that sees and understands this. 

https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status...9Us5B1Wr9w

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https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status...9Us5B1Wr9w


I don't worry about or espouse the "generational talent" thing. I don't care about that. It was always speculation.
I'm just trying to analyze what I'm seeing from this kid with a measured amount of offset applied due to the perfect storm of failure he was operating in last year. If that is "blind homerism" to some, so be it. But I feel like I'm being mildly optimistic at best.

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