(09-13-2022, 02:13 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote:

(09-13-2022, 09:08 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: By all accounts, there hasn't been any terrible cost.  Except for the Russians.

As far as your remark about "propaganda," this news is coming from literally everywhere.  Even Russian state TV.

What the hell have you been watching? Must be the same channel where Queen Elizabeth II is still alive and 2020 never happened.

I was talking about the Ukrainian counteroffensive.  I assumed that's what he was talking about.  The Ukrainian counteroffensive has not come at a terrible cost for Ukrainians.  

He said "by all accounts this was a win for the Ukrainians but at a terrible cost." I didn't think he was talking about the entire war because he use the word "was" and the war is continuing.  And I thought he was responding to my remark about the counteroffensive.  

Of course this entire war has come at a terrible cost for Ukrainians.  

I would add, if he was talking about the entire war when he said "this was a win for the Ukrainians," then I think he's being very premature.   The war is not over.

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