(09-21-2022, 06:52 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-inv...ticle_pos1

The Ragtag Army That Won the Battle of Kyiv and Saved Ukraine

Citizen volunteers teamed up with soldiers to turn the tide in the most consequential European battle since World War II

Russia didn't appear to want to invade Kyiv or they would have done it. It was a threat that Ukraine had to respect and split their forces. Kyiv has been spared most of the bombing and people are going about their daily lives for the most part.

Russia also didn't send their main troops and used old equipment. They setup supply lines and then just stopped. They were literally sitting ducks but Ukraine couldn't do much about it.

Ukraine couldn't reinforce the south and east because of it.

(09-22-2022, 11:39 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: https://www.the-sun.com/news/6277405/rus...t-ukraine/

This will be interesting to see how it goes. The referendums are starting this weekend to join Russia. If they pass, those areas will become Russian territory and any further attacks could be treated as an attack on Putin.

So the Russian troops withdrawal during the counterattack may have been strategy as the areas they left aren't voting to join Russia. It matches some of the reports where there wasn't any real opposition and there wasn't exactly a huge amount of Ukrainian troops.

Hopefully this is an end to the war as Russia gains to 2 main areas with Russian speaking people. Then the people have no reason to fight and force Putin to stop.

Ukraine will then need to stand down but I'm afraid the US won't let them stop. It will continue until a war is openly declared.

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