(10-10-2022, 02:06 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:

(10-10-2022, 12:29 PM)p_rushing Wrote: Today Russia hit Kiev and many other places to take out lots of infrastructure and military targets. I'm sure there are some deaths from civilians today. This is really the first major showing of force by Russia in these population centers.

Russia may or may not issue a 48 window to end the fighting.

Hopefully this wakes the people up in the big cities to demand their leaders stop this before they get them killed. Before this most people in the cities really weren't affected for the most part other than shortages of some things.

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Stop doing what?  Defending their own country?  And since when are apartment buildings and schools legitimate military targets?  

Where do you get these crazy ideas?  Do you have a link to whatever is your source of information?

Apartment and schools are targets when the military is using them and the people have long left, are being held captive, or are shooting. All 3 of those have happened in apartments, homes, schools, malls, hospitals, etc so far. It's well documented if you just look past the MSM sources.

What are they defending? Territory that didn't want to be part of Ukraine to begin with? Territory that they constantly bombed and sent death squads into for the past 8 years? Defending the West and NATOs view on what should happen to Russia?

The people are primarily going about their daily lives in the major cities. They aren't affected by this much. Now that they are affected, they need to choose if they want to risk their lives for the elites. Russia hasn't advanced past the areas that have chosen to join Russia. One of the leaders in Crimea said that Russia was holding back way too much and that the rules were finally be changed. He said they should have done this from the beginning and Ukraine would have folded by May.

Winter is coming and while the rest of the EU freezes, Ukraine will do it while a war is ongoing unless they wise up and find peace.

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