(10-26-2022, 01:35 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(10-26-2022, 12:54 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Gender is distinct from anatomy? 

You are so easily manipulated. It's like you have an inability to see where other people are lying to you. If this movement were centered around masculinity vs femininity only, in the sense that girls can want to blow things up and boys can want to wear items that make them feel feminine, it would not be NEARLY the issue it is in our culture. HOWEVER, that's not what this is about. The LEFT has conflated gender and sex, and ONLY uses that exact argument to appease non-thinking moderates. Can we have XY only bathrooms according to trans activists? Or XY only sports? No? 

If not, this isn't about "gender," as they have once again redefined a term, but about sex. Can men get pregnant, Mikey? Stop being so [BLEEP] gullible. Stop letting them redefine terms to change culture. If you were better read, you would understand the forces that are at work here, which is the malleability of language and culture as a tool for power. It works, but only because people like you can't seem to call [BLEEP] when you need to. 

I have really come to believe that this is a problem with our intellectuals being too afraid of looking stupid to draw a line in the sand with regards to linguistic integrity. Some douche comes along and changes the meaning of a word, and all the intellectuals line up to show how quickly they can adopt this new paradigm into their belief system.

Like most issues, this is messy.  You're demanding a standard of consistency which can only be met with an all or nothing approach. Lia Thomas and Bruce Jenner are very different from Kim Petras or Quinn or Jazz.  I do think women's sports should be more exclusive and Lia Thomas should never have been included.

I think we've only just begun to have a conversation about  what age is appropriate for a kid to change their pronouns and manner of dress (which is totally reversible). Or what age is appropriate for a puberty blocking hormone (which is also totally reversible). Or what age is appropriate for a cross gender hormone (which is not reversible). And finally what age is appropriate for surgery.  The right wants to say "no, never, nothing" is the answer to all of these questions and they are threatening anyone who thinks differently with prosecution. The left wants to say "mind your own business" is the answer to all of these questions, which is understandable because the other side is threatening prosecution, and they threaten anyone who thinks differently with cancelation.  So both sides are putting out messages that have a massive chilling effect on the actual difficult conversation we need to have.  

You do get one thing right.  We are being manipulated and it is for political gain.  However, it is not at all this nebulous academic Left that supposedly has long term plans to overturn the constitution and usher in some nebulous, yet-to-be defined dictatorship of the proletariat.  To the extent that such people exist, they do not have the influence to create the moral panic we are in at the moment. It's much more simple than that.  This issue is bad for Democrats.  Discussing it helps Republicans.  Republicans who are currently elected and who are seeking reelection are using this issue, and discussing it in the most unproductive way possible, so it remains unresolved and so they can milk it for a few more cycles.

This issue is only messy because you're too quick to adopt stupid premises. We shouldn't be having a conversation about when kids get to "choose" their gender. It's not really a thing one should be choosing, especially not if it exists on a spectrum like what people claim. This is just another attempt to sexualize children, destroy cultural norms, and usher in a new generation with no preconceived notions about what their society is supposed to "look" like. This comes from progressive ideology that has concerned itself with eradicating western culture, which is doing so by stopping its reproduction. 

Actual body dysmorphia is a mental disorder that needs to be treated, because those people commit suicides at alarming rates. Nothing that is being done by the left is genuinely attempting to solve that. Now, young people who are easily manipulated and sociopaths are using this type of victimhood to find a place in this "new" cultural paradigm. It's stupid. And you're an enabler.

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