(11-07-2022, 06:36 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote:

(11-07-2022, 08:47 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Manziel would have but he had a substance abuse problems.  Blackmon was great and a HOF but he had a issue as well.  Matt Jones had potential as well but the same.  Some have the talent but get involved with the wrong [BLEEP] and choose that over football.

I don’t want to get involved in the back and forth stuff, but your comment made me think of a player that had substance abuse issues and Jimmy Smith came to mind. I guess some players are still beasts even with substance problems. 

In my opinion Manziel was just simply not good enough. Even if he didn’t have substance problems.

Johnny Pigskin was a VERY good college player. Sometimes that's just not enough to translate to the next level. Substances didn't have as much to do with things as maturity. For some of those collegiate stars that don't immediately translate, they put in work and improve their game, the lazy ones fizzle out of the league in a flash.

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(11-07-2022, 07:00 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: This Geno Smith thing is crazy.  Great to see him succeed.  Hope he can keep it up and not flop like Tommy Maddox when he had his resurrection with the Steelers, only to then choke by throwing pic 6 to Rashean Mathis, then to come home to a home that had been landscaped with scattered trash and toilet paper over the trees.  LOL.

Pittsburgh is home to the classiest people, it is known.

(shouldn't throw stones, though, some Clevelanders were disgusting with how they treated Earnest Byner.)

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(11-07-2022, 07:02 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Geno Smiths play is by far the biggest surprise of the season for me

Funny thing, can he even be awarded Comeback Player of the Year? Not like he was hurt, he was just relegated to backup jobs for years.

I'd certainly give him a vote, esp if he can get that team to the postseason. Nobody thought they would be worth anything.

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