(01-31-2023, 05:15 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:

(01-31-2023, 04:58 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: This is probably his last real bite at the apple though.  I think he’s really going to want a 5 year deal (and could probably find that in the open market) with a decent portion of that 3rd year guaranteed.

If he takes $26MM guaranteed on a 3 year deal (essentially a 2 year deal), Baalke must’ve had the violins playing while he oversold our cap situation to Engram and Engram must’ve really really wanted to stay here and bought it.  I just really think the guarantees need to go partially into year 3 for him to stay because I think he could find that out there.

Eh, he was on the open market last year and the best he could get was a was 1 year 9 mil deal.  I don't see anyone signing him at 29 to a 5 year deal.  A team would of done it last year.  Engram is the top guy I want resigned  but he isn't getting Kelce money.  13 mil a year for 3 years would be a very great deal for him.  As the poster above said, it's new to us winning and when a player now has a good year they are willing to pay him anything so we can be good again.  I remember when some were saying give Yawn an open check book and whatever he wanted lol.  We offered him way more than he was worth or any other team would give him and he turned it down, he lost so many millions.  The good think about Engram is we can just tag him if he's asking for crazy money but I don't think he will

Why does anybody keep pointing out or thinking that he's going to:

A. Ask for Kelce money
B. Worth Kelce money

My average per year is based on a few, realistic expectations. For starters, it puts him in the top five - eight range with guys that are in the same ballpark range production wise. This is factoring in last year plus the entirety of their careers. Also, you have to adjust for NFL inflation. 

The market always goes up. Guys are going to get slightly overpaid to an extent. It's just the nature of the salary cap. $14.5M - $15M APY is fair based on the current market and where guys are slotted in at. I would offer him 3 years, starting at $14M APY and working towards cash loading it up front with incentives towards that final year of the deal.

This should ensure you're getting the best out of your money spent on him up front while he's still a little bit younger and then towards the end when you know you're going to have to make moves to inevitably resign Lawrence to his monster deal you have given yourself an easy out and two years to draft and develop or sign his replacement that's going to cost you less per year.

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