(03-24-2023, 10:33 AM)InvalidContentWasFoundStarting Wrote:

(03-24-2023, 09:45 AM)mikesez Wrote: 3 doesn't need fixing.  It was pretty good.  A couple years ago I was bored and I made a list of the scenes and dialog that would need to change in episodes 1 and 2 to eliminate the rule of two and make a new way for sith to be created.  It really wasn't that many.  And the movies became a bit more exciting this way too.  For instance, what if young anakins motive for winning the race isn't "racing is the best and winning rules" but instead "the winner gets money and I'll be able to buy freedom for me and mom." Anakin wouldn't need obi wan to save him from slavery.  He saves himself.  Instead Obi Wan and Qui Gon just have to protect the newly free anakin from being kidnapped by Darth maul. Now you know why they're fighting, instead of the generic "ooo its a sith, get him!" the jedi would be fighting to save a kid from kidnapping.

The Rule of Two becomes a lot more palatable when you realize that it doesn't limit Sith to only two; it limits Sith Lords to only two. IE: Sith entitled to use the title "Darth." The show Kenobi showed us that there were several Sith Inquisitors operating at the same time as Lord Sidious and Lord Vader. The Clone Wars showed us Asajj Ventress operating at the same time as Lord Sidious/Lord Tyranus. Not to mention that during The Clone Wars, Maul was somehow still alive and even had his own apprentice.  So during The Clone Wars there were at least 5 Sith operating (Sidious, Tyranus, Ventress, Maul, Savage) but only two who were allowed to be called Darth.

And why are we talking about the Sith in a thread with Trump in the subject line? 

I get that they're cleaning up and retconning this issue outside the movies, but it should have been addressed in the movies themselves.  Episode 6 leaves a reasonable viewer believing that no one will be able to use the Force for evil again, and that the only way to really access the force is through formal training as a Jedi under Luke or as a Sith under Vader (who is now dead, so only Jedi). Luke was not able to use the force until Obi Wan explained it to him.  Then Rey shows up using it to defend herself, and Snoke shows up using the Force for evil.  Rey gets a bit of backstory, and hers makes sense because her use of the force is uncertain and inconsistent even though it's usually effective.  But Snoke needs a backstory.  How did he learn to confidently use the Force, and why is he evil? He can't have a backstory that makes even a lick of sense unless you change some of the exposition in 6 (and everyone loves 6) or the exposition in 1 and 2 (which no one loves).  Obvious choice.  Change 1 and 2.

As for Trump, I think we all agree that he has incredible control of the forces of charisma and persuasion. We just disagree about if he uses this for good or evil.

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