(03-26-2023, 08:15 AM)mikesez Wrote:

(03-26-2023, 12:50 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: The last Jedi was one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. As a result, I didn’t bother to go to the theater for 9 (the thought of not catching a star wars movie in the theater would have been blasphemous to me many years ago.) though I eventually watched it on Disney+ and it wasn’t any better.  I went to the theater twice for force awakens, not because I enjoyed it, but to see if the concerns I had leaving the theater the first time would go away on a second viewing.  They didn’t. I haven’t watched Last Jedi a second time nor the last one whatever it’s called. Like many, I grew up obsessed with the original trilogy. 

You’d have to try pretty hard to [BLEEP] up as bad as they did with the sequel trilogy.  The writing and new characters all sucked.  There’s really nothing redeeming about them to me. That said, my family recently went to Disney world and a few of their other parks.  The Rise of the Resistance ride is pretty cool.

There are much worse movies out there, but 8 is by far the worst of the 9 movies. 8 had some really good stuff in it though.  Pretty much everything involving Luke was good.  Pretty much everything involving Leia was good. But the stuff they did with the younger characters was just bizarre.

How to fix 8:
No casino raid.  No casino planet.  No "DJ" character telling us the entire war is meaningless.  Give Finn and his friends a different raid to try to break the tracker, let the raid fail, but have Holdo say all along, "if your plan fails I will evacuate this ship." Still have her surprise the audience with the "Holdo maneuver" but she can do that maneuver by autopilot.

Rey's parents remaining unknown war casualties is fine.  But as she discovers it, give Luke a speech saying he has seen spontaneous mutations giving force sensitivity before and many of the Jedi he trained in the time between 6-7 did not have force sensitive parents. "The force doesn't always follow rules.  Sometimes it does what it wants."

The Kylo-Rey discussions-at-a-distance only occur when Kylo intentionally starts them.  Luke sees Kylo popping up in Rey's vision but is unconcerned.  "I taught him that.  I left before he could turn it into something really dangerous." "These holograms can be dangerous?" "If enough people see them!" Luke winks.

Rose doesn't crash Finn's ship.  Finn's ship breaks down on its own, and Rose steers hers to pick him up.  Finn insists that they continue with their suicide mission "these things don't have an autopilot!" But Rose says she can't.  Finn says it would be wrong to make her.  They fire off a few shots at the enemy and retreat.  No kiss.

Most importantly... more flashbacks from Luke.  Luke doesn't narrate them.  They just happen.  The story arc in the flashbacks explains where snoke came from and how he got Ben to become kylo.

You'd have to do more than that to fix it. Honestly, I don't even understand the point of the last 3 movies at all. I don't understand where they are going. I don't get the moral. I don't understand what I'm rooting for. It's just a really weird set of movies that exist solely off the success of the original 3. I really believe having different directors was a problem in that series. I am a pretty creative guy, but I just can't really make a set of stories that remotely resemble the last three films that serve a purpose. It's a giant mess.

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