(03-26-2023, 01:29 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(03-26-2023, 01:01 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: You changed, FSG, but you're right, lol... but only about the things Mikey can see. It doesn't matter that the original 3 movies told a universally loved hero's journey, and the last 3 can barely put together a plot. It doesn't matter that there was a strong female in character that is beloved by the fans, or a black man who was a rogue, that still somehow redeemed himself and set the tone for "cool in the early 80's. It doesn't matter that there's a mary sue in these new ones who doesn't have an end game, character arc, or change in any significant way, other than to struggle romantically? You old man, you.

You're all over the place.
Yes, Leia as a strong female character is comparable to what better writers would have made Rey into.
Yes, Finn as a strong black character could have been more like Lando, maybe more conventionally black, but more importantly, Finn needed a clearer character arc as you say.
And it does matter that Rey is a Mary Sue.  Her teenage energy and lack of training need to cause her to bumble and have tantrums from time to time, like Luke did, and they didn't show that.
All of these things make the sequels bad.  All of them matter.  
None of them are "woke" in any way though.  They're just incoherent.