(03-31-2023, 09:23 PM)AlsJagsFan Wrote: I legit do not understand all the Trump hate. I mean I could get it if all the allegations against him were actually proven true. Russia was shoved down everyone's throat for years, yet it's been proven false. That alone should get people to go "wait a second, the media told me Trump was a spy, and was a stooge for Putin...but now it's proven to not be true".

The quid pro quo debate as I stated above, any sane person should be able to look at that and even if you don't like how Trump handled it, how can anyone just blow off Bidens video admission.

I am not saying Trump is perfect, he's a rich dude who probably has done some shady stuff, so what, do you really think he's the only one?

I remember when that audio clip of Trump saying he can go up and grab them by the privates surfaced. My buddies and I were on discord when the media was mocking Trump for saying that's locker room talk and the pundits were all saying that's not true. I tell you what if some of the stuff I've said on Discord to my friends ever got out lol yikes. I've heard some pretty intense stuff.

Trumps home gets raided when the feds knew he had the documents. No one barely mentions Biden having thousands of documents from several years scattered all over his properties.

Like Trump or hate Trump I cannot see how sane people cannot see the double standard.

No one is blowing it off.  What Biden did was news in 2015.  It wasn't hidden.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...785620002/
Many articles have been written about this.  Have you read them?  Start.
The IMF wanted it done.  The EU wanted it done.  Various political parties in Ukraine wanted it done.  It wasn't just Biden.  The timeline had nothing to do with Hunter Biden's time on the Burisma board.  And the man was only in office for 6 weeks.  His words, actions, and inactions angered a lot of people for a lot of reasons. 
It's one thing to take a US-centric view and say "this happened because they like us" or "this happened because they don't like us".  Such views of events are just self-flattery and they are generally wrong.  But you're taking it a step further and saying "this happened because Ukrainians like Democrats" or "This happened because Ukrainians don't like Republicans." But think for a minute, why would a Ukrainian know or care about the difference between Joe Biden and Donald Trump? It's hasn't been relative to their lives.  Many of them grew up under Soviet control.  Most of them don't speak English.

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