(04-01-2023, 07:28 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:

(04-01-2023, 07:10 PM)mikesez Wrote: The data isn't pertinent to the conversation. 
The changes in crime rates that may or may not happen as a result of local elections are not going to change the role America's role in the world, militarily or economically, are they?

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OK well not every topic needs your input either, bud.

Facts not in evidence suggests that the evidence points to different facts. That's easy show with data. You made a statement that needs support, but you can't actually offer support, so you change the discussion. That's why people think you're disingenuous.

The discussion was about if it was legit to bring George Soros into a discussion of this indictment.  You said yes, because George Soros is anti-American.  I said that would be a good reason, can you give an example.  Your example was the allegedly "soft on crime" prosecutors he has supported.  You threw in a line about crime increasing on their watch.  Two problems with that.
1) Criminology is still an art, not a science.  There simply is not any clear data about which policies reduce or increase crime, and many crimes go unreported or poorly reported. The data isn't in evidence, not because I have better data, but because very little good data actually exists.
2) The increase in crime, even if it happens, has nothing to do with anyone being anti American.  Throughout the history of this country, we have had more crime than Japan and Germany for sure, probably Russia too.  A high crime rate makes our quality of life lower, yes, but we can still impose our will on others when needed.

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