(05-04-2023, 01:03 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(05-04-2023, 12:33 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: You seem to think that she worked harder than those men she beat (likely you said). Then you said it's also likely that she worked harder than those who replaced her but they still exceeded her, which carries a subtext that those men had some other means to supersede her with a lesser amount of work than she put in (which you don't know). It almost sounds like she achieved so much with her inferior little brain only because of how much harder she worked at it than those more intellectually gifted but certainly lazier men. Ok, maybe not almost.

You're drawing that conclusion.  I'm telling you what the evidence says.  She had to work harder.  Whether that is due to female anatomy or due to the social expectations and treatment of females in communist Hungary, she had to work harder at chess than men worked to get to that level.

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(05-04-2023, 12:49 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: So you want affirmative action for women's brains.  

It's silly.  If you want to treat women like they are inferior, then let them have a nice, segregated women-only competition.  Then we can all look down our noses at women, because they are inferior and they admit it.  

But there's no reason to think women have less brain power than men, or less confidence.  I've seen plenty of women playing poker, or chess, and they have loads of confidence and a high level of skill. 

It's long past time to end the women-only chess or poker or any other competition that involves brain power.  Because it just makes the point that women are inherently inferior.

I'm not a woman, and I would not fund a chess tournament because I'm not that interested in chess.  So I want nothing at all in this area.

But I am saying there is a plausible reason for women to want their own tournament.  It could be an affirmative action with the goal of building themselves up to the point of not needing it anymore, or it could be a permanent thing based on a recognition of their different brain anatomy.  Their brain anatomy is different, but no one really knows how those measurable differences map to real world tasks like chess or poker.  And science may never know.

In either case, as long as they want that for themselves, I will not say they shouldn't have it.