(05-06-2023, 03:52 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:

(05-06-2023, 01:59 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: I previously advocated trading up and specifically for Clark Phillips.  I was curious, so I looked at what trades were made and what they costed.  When I did, I found that I was right.  Teams could trade up and the cost wasn't unreasonable.  The team 1 spot ahead of us (Patriots) in the 4th round coincidentally traded up to the exact spot I wanted -- 1 spot ahead of Clark Phillips.  I mentioned above that the point chart said it would cost 16 points.  Guess what the Patriots paid?  16.2 points.  It cost them a 6th round pick.  Was that too much to move up?  To be fair, the Patriots traded 120 and 184 while we had 121 and 185 but come on.  Throw in another late pick or two.  Alternatively, we could have offered pick 160 instead of 185.  I find it very hard to believe the Jets wouldn't have preferred that offer to the one they accepted.

A second option also existed.  The Cardinals traded picks 122, 139 and 168 to the Lions move up to pick 96 (third round).  We could have offered the Lions picks 121, 136 and 160.  All three picks are higher.  If so, our draft could have been:

Harrison
Strange
Bigsby
Clark Phillips or Dawand Jones or Adetomiwa Adebawore or Kelee Ringo or Nick Saldiveri
Two 4th Round Picks  
Three 6th Round Picks
Two 7th Round Picks

We could have gotten a quality player at a position of need and still had more late round picks than could realistically make the team.

Interestingly, I also just totaled the points for the trade.  The 96th pick is worth 116 points.  Guess what's the combined points of 121, 136 and 160?  116.2 points!  LOL!  As I said, we just needed to offer fair value.

Sorry to get into the nitty gritty, but the point is that this notion that there were no options for Baalke to trade up is just false.

Perhaps, but you presume we coveted Philips or any of the guys you mention.  It could be that we coveted guys that went before all of them and couldn't find a partner to get up high enough to get them and then just decided to sit tight because there were plenty of guys left to choose from in the next highest tier on their board.  You're drawing fairly definitive conclusions off relatively little information.

I didn't presume the Jaguars wanted Philips.  I said that I advocated for Philips.  I can draw extremely definitive conclusions because I was talking about MY strategy.  Baalke is obviously going to like his strategy or it wouldn't have been his strategy.  Besides, whether or not Baalke wanted Philips doesn't change that it was an option available to him.

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