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mikesez
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05-12-2023, 11:23 AM

(11-12-2017, 12:42 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-12-2017, 08:27 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: I'm reading the book about Alexander Hamilton by Ron Chernow.

If you think politics is mean and nasty these days, it's nothing compared to how it was right after Washington left office. Those guys were way down in the gutter. I'm talking about famous founding fathers who were just ripping each other a new one, making all kinds of wild and scandalous accusations about each other.

Makes me chuckle when people A. talk about how terrible and unstatesman-like politics is today, and B. lament how awful and biased the media is today. It's been a LOT worse in the past among some of the very best of us.

No one alive today remembers the incivility and inability to compromise being worse than it is now. There's a continuum. At one end you have times of very high consensus like 1815-1825. At the other end you have civil unrest and civil war like 1854 to 1877. We are somewhere in the middle, and still far from the edge, but it is not wrong to be concerned about the overall trend.

My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

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