(05-24-2023, 01:58 PM)Caldrac Wrote:

(05-24-2023, 01:32 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: To add, it's getting kinda comical.

13 years ago:
Concerned fan - "We need to support the team or they'll leave for London or some other city."
Naysayer - "They're not leaving for London or anywhere else."

11 years ago:
Concerned fan - "Damn, we're losing a home game to London each year for the next 4 years."
Naysayer - "They need the revenue to be viable here for the time being until we sell out our home games. It'll be ok,"

7 years ago:
Concerned fan - "Well I thought it was supposed to be just 4 years, now we're permanently losing that home game?"
Naysayer - "Quit being such a whiner. We're not actually moving to London at least."

Earlier this year:
Concerned fan - "They're talking about 2 games in London now?  What the hell is going on?" 
Schedule gets release:
Concerned fan - "Whew, at least the 2nd one is an away game.  We dodged a bullet for sure."

Within the past couple of weeks:
Goodell speaks on 3rd game in London for same team not being off the table:
Concerned fan - *facepalm*

Outgoing mayor speaks on team potentially needing to play elsewhere for 2 years during stadium renovation:
Concerned fan - "If true, it better not be London."
Naysayer - "Even if it is, the city will have an agreement in place to keep them here."
Concerned fan - "Mmhmm." *eyeroll*


If it were ever actually to occur, everyone would  look back on this past 15 years of the team's existence and go "duh, what did you think was happening/going to happen?" is all.

Fair and valid points. I appreciate the timeline. It sounds like it's all but a foregone conclusion now. They're trying to capture the European market on a more well rounded and permanent basis. Jacksonville would be the flagship franchise. 

I'll make a bold prediction. If the Jaguars win a Superbowl within the next three years of football? I could see them being moved to London to keep it interesting and strong over there. We're not giving them some rundown franchise at that point. You're getting a big name product with big time accomplishments. 

It will probably be rigged as well. Just had to put my tinfoil hat on for this one. Would be a fitting and depressing finale to the chapter of football in Jacksonville. "Here, you're small market team, we gave you a Superbowl, now, adios!".

I was actually in the "Naysayer" or whatever category up until Goodell's comment.  You can put me in the "Concerned Fan" category now and yes I realize I could be reading way too much into it.  To Khan's credit, he appears to be trying to make it work here and they wanted to make it clear before the schedule dropped that they would only do 2 games in London if one of them were an away game.  Perhaps Goodell's comment was simply strategically dropped to help light a fire under local government to acquiesce to Khan's and the league's demands/preferences.

 My questions are:  If these extra weeks in London are for "evaluation" purposes, why would the Jags help further evaluate a market and travel effects and then if it proves worthwhile then cede it to an expansion team or other franchise relocating down the road?  I guess the counter argument would be revenue sharing, but that wouldn't cover it for me by itself considering you're doing all that work for a 1/32 slice of the benefit.  Also, if we are to play elsewhere for 2 years (or however long) during a stadium reno/rebuild and you're already playing 1 or more games in London, why wouldn't London be on the table for your "temporary" home?  And if you go to London full time for a "temporary" period and it's a smashing success, why wouldn't you as the owner consider just claiming that market?  Even if the negotiated cost of leaving were to be in the $1 Billion range, the value of a franchise operating out of London would likely instantly be worth more than a billion more than the Jags are currently worth. As a business man you'd have to consider it.  These are not new questions though.  They have been asked since the onset of playing in London.  I guess what it boils down to is I'd just like to know where the line is because there doesn't appear to be one and there probably isn't one which is why I'm a "Concerned Fan" now.

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