(06-08-2023, 11:19 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: Jag149, what I saw on the tube regarding Allen was verbatim. I’m assuming the guy meant he’s expected to holdout come training camp.

As far as Engram, he can sign or not play, correct. Or he can sign and get free money and not play a down if he don’t want to and pull and Brandon Marshall, kicking footballs all over the practice field. If the Jaguars are going for a Super Bowl, they want all of their players happy.

It’s all about the money for the players. Jalen Ramsey’s back all of a sudden became a problem and he quit playing but his back got healed up real quick when he was traded to LA.

I don’t think Engram will sign the tag, which is why I said if I was Engram I would holdout too. I don’t know why you want to be explained how this a current holdout.

I won’t write back if you say Ramsey wasn’t on a franchise-tag.

These two are in similar but not the same positions. 

Holdout implies the player is required to attend. So far he has not missed any required functions. Allen is on a 5th year option, guaranteed money but if he doesn't play this year next year he will still be on the 5th year option. You have to play for it to go away. He will be subject to fines for missed required functions. Yea, after a contract is signed they forgive them normally.


If a player is tagged, he’s left with almost no choice. His only recourse for a long-term deal that same season would be to sign one with the tagging team. Otherwise, every franchise tag recipient in the NFL either has to reach an extension by July 15 or be locked into the one-year deal, even if he ends up traded.

If a player gets to July 15 without an extension, he has to sign the franchise tag in order to play and get paid. At that point, the only other option is to refuse to sign the tag, which isn’t unprecedented. But it means the player gets no money until he does sign.

Players can hold out if they want. But they’d be subject to hefty fines, depending on how long they are absent from camp. And despite the NFL franchise tag being “guaranteed,” you still need to play in order to get paid. Week 10 is the deadline for players to sign the tag in order to play and collect game checks.

So in reality they both can hold out all they want. They do need to play to get the money. I can't see how playing poorly would increase their value.


https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/what-fif...gency-news
https://985thesportshub.com/2021/03/04/n...to-accept/

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