(06-14-2023, 01:36 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:

(06-14-2023, 12:54 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: My apologies that this is spiraling off topic, but I'll say this about the hypothetical draft.  Mahomes could fall off in a few years (interested to see him without Kelce), we just don't know what his future holds or what his longevity will be.  He has been great to this point, no doubt, and will probably be very good/great for a while, but to put them in the same hypothetical draft at some point in their careers with Brady's known 20+ year career potential and Mahomes' 5 seasons as starter plus the unknown of what comes after that, you'd be an absolute fool to select the latter right now.

I'll add that stats aren't everything, especially stats without context.  Football isn't baseball.  What your eyes tell you and the end result matters most and it matters even more when the end result you're looking for keeps coming over and over again.  That's greatness and with Brady, it's a level of greatness we will likely never see again and that's no disrespect to the greatness that Mahomes has shown to date.

Many people thought Mahomes couldn't win without Tyreek.... And yet he won a SB.

The same people are going to question if he can do it without Kelce and I'm sure he will. The biggest downside the Jaguars have for the next 10-15 years is Mahomes. The Jags finally have their QB and it's coming at the same time as Burrow, Allen and Mahomes.

I think we have our QB that can go toe-to-toe with him. Looking back at our play-off loss to them. And, to be fair, Mahomes was "hobbled" to some extent. We still had some short comings offensively and near misses that altered the final score. Kirk with a monster drop on an absolutely money pass with pressure barreling down on him. The lack of pass rush, the Henne (really Pacheco or McKinnon big run) drive, etc. 

For some reason. Allen doesn't bother me as much as Mahomes and Burrow do. The three biggest things that will set this team back in 2023, much like 2022, if it indeed becomes a reoccurring theme this year, is:

1. Lack of pass rush.
2. Lack of cleaner pockets and time in general for Lawrence.
3. Lack of execution in the redzone.

That's about it. Those were the biggest takeaways last year. Defensively we had probably one of our worst overall showings as far as putting the QB on the ground for the stat that actually counts and matters the most. We saw Lawrence making quick, timely plays because he had no choice at times really and when they needed to make the big, field flipping plays? He had to move around time and time again. When he actually did get adequate time on those plays? He [BLEEP] nailed them nine times out of ten. Lastly, the interceptions, dropped passes and fumbles inside the redzone cannot happen this year. Especially against the tougher opponents.

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