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Trump Indicted, Charges are pending...


(06-19-2023, 11:22 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(06-19-2023, 05:45 AM)EricC85 Wrote: My understanding is that's exactly what's going on. Ford saw what Teslas doing and said they where going to cut out the dealerships. This bill HB-67 prevents that for the reasons I described above.

As I understood it, Ford was only hoping to sell electric cars direct to consumers, they would still continue to sell conventional and hybrid cars and trucks through dealerships only.
In theory an electric car should have much less maintenance needs, and much less potential recalls, It might be a totally different type of mechanic executing the recall repair anyways.
There are many car dealers that do not want to handle electric or hybrid cars at all.  Many car dealers try to minimize the options they will stock to best sellers only, and if you base your buying decisions on what sold last year, the product mix can't change. Manufacturers have been frustrated by this for years.

Also, to p_rushing's point, the franchise contract itself should handle most of this.  If a car dealer needs some security that they will have a sales territory and not get undercut by direct sales before they would be willing to provide a service department dedicated to recalls, that's a textbook example of something that a good contract can handle, no legislature needed.  Just judges. 

Personally I think, electric or not, dealerships are total leaches in all but the largest and most competitive geographic areas, and only for the brands with the biggest sales volume.   When Ford wants to move 10,000 F-150s per quarter into Florida, I can see how dealers could add value buying in bulk and taking on risks like "customers like this paint color more than we thought they would" or "customers liked this upgrade package in Jacksonville but not Tampa." But once you get into smaller sales volumes and more choices of packages and paint colors in less densely populated areas, I just don't see the value at all. Customers in these situations are usually fine if they have to wait a few weeks for the exact car they want to roll off the line.
If Progressive insurance can find a body shop they'll contract with in every market they operate in, I don't see why Hyundai and Kia couldn't do the same thing for recalls.

(06-21-2023, 04:54 AM)p_rushing Wrote:
(06-20-2023, 09:05 PM)EricC85 Wrote: So did trump admit during his interview to not obeying the grand jury subpoena?
Is this what CNN and other liberal channels are saying they got Trump on now?

I heared that they thought they got Trump for saying something but didn't look into the details yet. Not sure how the subpoena would be an issue. The only thing I can think of is the order to turn over the docs but since the docs weren't classified and were personal records, they doc match the order and don't have to be turned over per NARA and established precedent.

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No way listening to Erick Erickson on the ride home and he was saying it. Played a clip where he said he knew they hadn't turned over everything because he was busy and wanted to get his personal stuff out of the boxes first.
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Trump Indicted, Charges are pending... - by NH3 - 03-30-2023, 11:24 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 03-31-2023, 08:16 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 03-31-2023, 07:59 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 03-31-2023, 10:05 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by MarleyJag - 03-31-2023, 10:40 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 03-31-2023, 10:35 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by The Real Marty - 03-31-2023, 10:38 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 03-31-2023, 10:42 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by The Real Marty - 03-31-2023, 10:45 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 03-31-2023, 10:58 AM
Copycat - by copycat - 04-02-2023, 02:00 PM
RE: Copycat - by The Real Marty - 04-02-2023, 02:21 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 04-02-2023, 07:41 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 04-03-2023, 08:03 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 04-03-2023, 08:45 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by The Real Marty - 04-03-2023, 08:48 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 04-03-2023, 08:53 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by WingerDinger - 04-03-2023, 10:12 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by NH3 - 04-04-2023, 08:22 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by NH3 - 04-04-2023, 08:14 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 04-04-2023, 08:22 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by NH3 - 04-04-2023, 08:34 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 04-04-2023, 08:45 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by flsprtsgod - 04-04-2023, 09:26 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by WingerDinger - 04-04-2023, 09:29 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by NH3 - 04-04-2023, 06:10 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by flsprtsgod - 04-04-2023, 08:31 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 04-04-2023, 10:31 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by NH3 - 04-05-2023, 06:24 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by Sneakers - 04-05-2023, 09:27 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 04-03-2023, 12:02 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 04-03-2023, 01:12 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 04-03-2023, 03:43 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by WingerDinger - 04-03-2023, 01:14 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 04-12-2023, 06:27 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 06-13-2023, 01:59 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by The Real Marty - 06-13-2023, 02:31 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 06-13-2023, 04:36 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by p_rushing - 06-13-2023, 11:27 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by The Real Marty - 06-14-2023, 05:38 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by EricC85 - 06-14-2023, 06:52 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by p_rushing - 06-14-2023, 07:50 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 06-14-2023, 10:20 AM
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homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 06-20-2023, 09:50 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 06-21-2023, 10:45 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by NYC4jags - 06-21-2023, 11:05 AM
RE: Trump Indicted, Charges are pending... - by EricC85 - 06-21-2023, 06:35 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-15-2023, 06:15 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-15-2023, 08:51 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by NYC4jags - 08-15-2023, 11:48 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-15-2023, 11:51 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by Sneakers - 08-15-2023, 12:27 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-15-2023, 12:10 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-15-2023, 12:31 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-15-2023, 12:51 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by NYC4jags - 08-15-2023, 02:07 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-15-2023, 03:08 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by NYC4jags - 08-15-2023, 03:28 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by Sneakers - 08-15-2023, 07:32 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by NYC4jags - 08-16-2023, 09:04 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by Sneakers - 08-15-2023, 12:17 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by NYC4jags - 08-15-2023, 12:26 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by p_rushing - 08-15-2023, 01:10 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-15-2023, 01:16 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by p_rushing - 08-15-2023, 01:34 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by WingerDinger - 08-15-2023, 01:42 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-17-2023, 07:08 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-17-2023, 07:42 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by jagibelieve - 08-17-2023, 02:35 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by flsprtsgod - 08-17-2023, 02:44 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by jagibelieve - 08-17-2023, 02:50 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by WingerDinger - 08-17-2023, 05:26 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-17-2023, 02:53 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by MarleyJag - 08-17-2023, 08:07 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-17-2023, 08:06 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by MarleyJag - 08-17-2023, 08:14 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-28-2023, 05:28 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by Khan Artist - 08-28-2023, 08:30 AM
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RE: homebiscuit - by p_rushing - 08-28-2023, 11:10 PM
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homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 09-28-2023, 07:43 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by The Real Marty - 09-28-2023, 07:57 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 09-28-2023, 08:04 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by Sneakers - 09-28-2023, 09:48 AM
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