(07-14-2023, 06:27 PM)copycat Wrote:

(07-14-2023, 09:12 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: I agree with all that, but it's also the splintering of the news media into so many pieces that people can choose whatever worldview suits them.  Then that's what they absorb and they have no understanding of what other people are seeing who have a different worldview.

I put this all on us consumers because we do not demand better.  We as a society have grown so soft we no longer want our ideals challenged.  I hate it personally.  When this channel was started we had lively debates and an honest exchange of ideas.  Since 2016 and the unexpected defeat of Hillary and the election of Trump something overtly changed.  Though in retrospect if we were being totally honest the genesis of this overt division started with the election of Obama.  It was an historic occasion and every American should have been proud at how far we had come, many of us were.  The problem as I saw it was that every time I disagreed with a policy he proposed I was insulted and instantly labeled a racist.  The media perpetuated this ideal, which lead to Trump, which lead to Biden and here we are.  Divided, angry and no longer willing to compromise or consider alternative ideas.

You're mostly right.  I got kind of accused of racism those years too.  Didn't bother me, but it really got to a lot of people.  The elites were also bothered by how Obama did business.  He always started out from the "I'm already giving you everything I ever want to give" negotiating position, which fed the problem you mentioned.

Biden is marginally better in this regard because he does a better job keeping his mouth shut.

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