(08-18-2023, 10:48 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:

(08-17-2023, 02:32 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Yes

What about my right to breathe clean air?  Should your right to take your catalytic converter off your car trump my right to breathe clean air?  Why are your rights more important than everyone else's?

Because it's what I want and I don't really have a need to care about you or what you want unless it's to my benefit. That's the crux of the argument on both sides, always has been and always will be. It's just a matter of who wins out in the end. I'm simply the realist in the room who knows why we do this and doesn't try to dress it up in saving the world, or smiling on my brother, or it's for your own good. The world is about me and mine, your mileage may vary.

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(08-18-2023, 10:52 AM)mikesez Wrote:

(08-18-2023, 10:47 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: If I weren't then I figure it out. Why do you think I would deserve to have someone solve my problem for me? Why is it ok to make other people sacrifice for my well being? It's noble of you to believe that right up until you understand that coerced compassion isn't compassion at all, it's merely tyranny with a pretty face.

EVs only exist because grifters figured out how to get money from the tax payers to line their wallets. If EVs were in demand the Market would provide them. I want peanut butter flavored Triskets but no one else does so I don't have that choice. Shouldn't we give Nabisco subsidies to make PBTs to make me happy? Of course not, no one in their right mind would think so. Well, except for the Exceptional Flavors of Snack Crackers Foundation, a non-profit lobbying organization dedicated to the proposition that all snacks are created equal and no person should be left without their personal favorites. (Won't you send us just $20 today to help continue this important mission?) Nah, a free market will provide the goods and services that are in demand; what we have now is a severe distortion full of waste and corruption.

The cost to develop and market peanut butter flavored triscuits is negligible.  The barriers to entry are negligible.
These things are not true for new vehicle technologies.

Uh huh, because someone erected those barriers to entry by creating an expensive regulatory scheme that selects winners and losers. Gee, I wonder who and why that happened?

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