(08-25-2023, 09:27 PM)Caldrac Wrote:

(08-25-2023, 09:02 PM)mikesez Wrote: A party is more than a man and its also not a suicide pact.

You sure about that? The left has a lot of holes to fill. I think you're fixing to have your feelings hurt once the polls start coming in and the voting starts. Biden has [BLEEP] fallen off a cliff. Along with the rest of that social engineering party. There's nobody over there right now to get behind and support. He really is all you have. And that should be [BLEEP] terrifying if you're a loyalist to the left. 

You could maybe make a case for RFK. Maybe. His ideology though completely bucks the traditional beliefs of going along with the flow, taking the jab, complying to protocols, etc. Not sure if that's something the left crowd really wants to get behind. Who else do you have over there? Just curious.

I really don't care either way about Biden or the Democrats. I see them as a superior alternative to Trump because they speak and understand the language of constitutional order, but other than that I don't care about them.
In the unlikely event that Trump beats Biden in 2024, I'll try not to be too mad about it.  Trump will face the same problems he had in his first term.  He will try to upend the entire constitutional order but he will fail because even if one of the people he appoints actually follows his directions, Trump will change his mind next news cycle and throw that guy under the bus anyhow.
Before January 6 I was sure that Trump would ultimately try to overturn the constitution when it got in his way, and I was truly scared that the people and the military would let him.
After January 6 I know that Trump did all he could to overturn the constitution and I know he will try again if the opportunity comes to him, but I have more confidence that the majority of the people and the majority of the military will not go along with it. But I would rather not see it happen.

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