(08-28-2023, 11:31 AM)mikesez Wrote:

(08-28-2023, 10:29 AM)Sneakers Wrote: You can't find something that doesn't exist, you can only find something that's lost or misplaced.  

"Speed up"?  Where's the crime in speeding up a process?  Was he offering financial assistance to pay for extra workers and/or overtime?

Bribing an official is your interpretation of vague comments.  Maybe it's true, but that's far from proven and it's going to take language far more specific than any presented thus far to prove intent.

There is nothing in the definition of the word "recalculating" to suggest fraud.  Quite the opposite, it suggests verifying previous results to ensure accuracy.  

I'm more than a little skeptical of what I see on the internet, especially when I know how politically charged/driven it is.  Snippets of conversation, especially when presented without context are just that.  Allegations are not evidence and indictments are simply a step in the legal process leading to a trial, where the actual evidence is presented. 

I don't care for the guy, and I wish he would just disappear, but I'll wait for the trial before I convict him in the court of public opinion.

The presumption of innocence part and the wait for the trial part are what we do before we put someone in jail.  It's a high burden.

But we are not just thinking about putting Trump in jail.  We are thinking about returning him to public trust with our votes.  We don't have to presume innocence or wait for a trial before making a determination that Trump does not deserve public trust and should not get our votes.