(08-28-2023, 05:36 PM)Sneakers Wrote:

(08-28-2023, 11:26 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: You are missing the part where I informed you that Trump KNEW he lost Georgia fair and square. Before the call. 
There are records of correspondence from multiple official government entities informing him that the lies he was spreading about it were false. All of his claims about the mishandling of votes/ballots were investigated and proven false. ( the 'suitcases of ballots" FALSE - the '18,000 uncounted' FALSE - it was actually 8.900 - not enough to change the election and they were mostly Biden votes anyway - ALL of those claims were vetted and proven false) 

But he STILL made that call on January 2nd - so you must take all of those "vague" comments pressuring the Sec of State within the context of Trump having been informed over and over again that he lost the state straight up before he said all of that wacky garbage to the official. (and offered money under another false pretense) 

This important context makes the comments and the offer of funds (bribe) a horse of a different color.

(08-28-2023, 12:52 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: You are incorrect.

There is no correlation between the two separate false claims made by Trump. 

Separate false allegations that he made about Georgia's ballot handling and counting being separately proven to be lies do not help him in any way.

If you are talking about the 8900 uncounted - they were not uncounted when he made the phone call.
They were uncounted the day after the election when he was claiming 18000 were uncounted.

Not only did he know the number was wrong, he knew that those votes were going to be 70-80% in favor of Joe Biden based on the demo of the county and his extensive and expensive "don't vote by mail" campaign.

I'm talking about YOUR statements.  You said, "All of his claims about the mishandling of votes/ballots were investigated and proven false." and the 'suitcases of ballots" FALSE - the '18,000 uncounted' FALSE - it was actually 8.900.  You admitted 8,900 ballots were unaccounted for, so no, not all of his claims were false.   Who they were likely to be for is speculation and whether or not there were enough to change the outcome is irrelevant.

If 8,900 ballots were unaccounted for in any given district at any point in time, it is not unreasonable to believe that further discrepancies could potentially have existed in other districts.  A desire to verify results, even to an excessive degree, is not a crime.