(08-30-2023, 02:03 PM)KingIngram052787 Wrote:

(08-30-2023, 12:16 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: A. You waive off a poll because of a source even thought the demo information staring you in the face says it was spread amongst a matched sample of the voter population 
OK - your choice - I bet it's a pretty accurate assessment of American's temperature on the matter

B. You seem to think that campaign contributions mean that the contributor controls the elected official. 
Taking money for a campaign does not make an official "directly beholden" to anyone. LOL - If you tried to apply that "logic" to everyone holding office, you'd very rapidly see how horribly stupid it is to make that ridiculous assumption.

I don't know, I think you could argue that is why we're in the mess we're in...

Sure you can.  That's totally fair. 

I hate the big money that goes into PACs and campaigns. Always have. Always will, and I hope we see that curbed and regulated. 

But to try and pretend it is a one sided issue is naive  - and to pretend that every politician or elected official who accepts campaign contributions is now a puppet for one of their many donors is equally ludicrous. 

Unfortunately - adopting ludicrous conspiracy theory is now akin to inhaling air for many conservatives. 

The reality of this situation is that a losing presidential candidate attempted to illegally alter election results and is now being charged for doing so. 
Not difficult to justify without inventing a conspiracy. 
There is no need for it to be some conspiracy hit job from Soros backed prosecutors.
 It is simply our justice system doing its damn job. 

Why should we be surprised if the prosecutors who happened to have enough stones to charge a former president happen to oppose his party in some way or accept campaign finance from those who do? 
We shouldn't. 

We've witnessed first hand dozens and dozens of Republican figures go from opposing Trump in 2014/15 to rolling over with their tail between their legs and submitting to his movement to keep from losing their base of constituents. 
Did conservatives expect a flurry of prosecutors with conservative ties to go after him for his crimes? That doesn't jive with the reality of our divided nation at all right now. Of course it was prosecutors who don't agree with his policy even if it's their job to remain unbiased about such things in their proceedings.  We aren't going to sit around and pretend that any prosecutor anywhere doesn't have an opinion on the most divisive figure in politics, are we?

---