(09-03-2023, 12:09 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote:

(09-03-2023, 09:12 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Fortner has to play better this year.  He faces a murders row of DTs again this year.  Week 1 he has Buckner.  Hopefully he has a good outing

Last season we had a 1,000 yard rusher, a 1,000 yard receiver, a record breaking TE, and Lawrence was one of the least sacked QBs in the league. 

In the regular season, Fornter snapped the football 1121 times in 2022 and had 4 penalties and gave up 1 sack. In the playoffs he gave up 1 sack. 

In 2022 Fortner had an approximate value of 8. 5 time pro bowler and 1 time All Pro Brandon Scherff also had an approximate value of 8 in 2022. Jawaan Taylor also had a 8. Tyler Shatley had a 6 AV. 

Walker Little had a 3 AV. Bartch was injured but had a 3 AV. 

To give some perspective on the approximate value, Vince Manuwai is considered one of the best guards in Jaguars history, he never had lower than a 6 but never higher than a 10. 

An AV of 8 is pretty good for an offensive lineman. 

LG Ben Coleman was with the Jaguars from 1995 to 1999, in 1996 he had an AV of 8, in 1997 he had a 10, in 1998 he had a 9, and in 1999 he had a 7. 

RT Leon Searcy had an 8,10,8,13 in the 4 years he was with the Jaguars. 

Boselli was on another planet with 1,11,15,15,16,11,1 (injured 1st and last season).

The best center in Jaguars history is Brad Meester. He switched from guard to center in 2003 where he finished that season with an AV of 8. The next 2 seasons he had 7 AV. In 2008 and 2011 he had a 5, and he had a 6 for his last 2 seasons of his career. In his first season as the starting center, Meester allowed a half a sack and was called for 2 penalties. 

To say Fortner needs to play better, hell you can say that about any player in any sport.

Honestly I’ve never heard of “AV” or whatever that is.

Never heard Boselli or the guys on 1010xl even mention it.  So I don’t really buy into these arbitrary rankings.

Fortner was pretty average to below average IMO. He was a rookie. I think his main thing needs to be to get stronger over time. 

In my untrained eye, Walker Little played much better than Fortner last year so having a lower AV just completely destroys the entire rating system.

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