(09-06-2023, 03:58 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(09-06-2023, 03:45 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: I would be all for Nikki Haley if I thought she could do anything to curb the power of our elites. The real problem in this country is that we, the people, are an afterthought. I think we could field a nice, moderate candidate, but I really think that just pacifies us why the rich and powerful continue to do what they do.

Don't you think that any presidential candidate we could conceivably get nominated left, right, or center (even in a miraculous 3rd party with a foothold) would be equally ineffective against "the elites?" 

I'm asking without malice, BTW. Curious what you'd like to see. 

I know you think an effective POTUS would have to be some sort of rogue outsider willing to go against the grain, but if we are so under the thumb of the most powerful, what could anyone actually get done? 

Trump tried and failed to go outside the box. (never mind any disagreements we have about his real intentions and methods - he couldn't meaningfully forward his agenda at all beyond a few SC appointments) 

So what would the perfect candidate for a voter like you be, and why would they have power to move against the elite grain moreso than any other candidate?