(09-08-2023, 04:32 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: Unfortunately voters are like politicians, they become gears in the machine rather than individual voices of reason. This is why a strong third party needs to emerge. At least for a little while. The two party system has become a duopoly.

(09-08-2023, 03:53 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

(09-08-2023, 03:33 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: "The right" and millions upon millions of sensible voters on the left had a pump the brakes attitude. 

As usual, the loudest voices in the room get amplified and the cries of the "defund" cuckoo-birds got the attention. 
That doesn't mean they represent a majority of Dem/Left voters. 

There are years worth of posts from me in the various "death by police" threads saying better vetting of recruits and reformed training in use of lethal force were the way forward. Sure, plenty of police dept's around the country could be budgeted more wisely, but you never heard me calling to defund or dismantle them. Just fix the problems. And many of them work diligently to do so in a variety of ways. 

Most folks are wise enough to value public safety beyond such a ridiculous concept as defunding police.

No such thing really.