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Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax


(09-14-2023, 04:13 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(09-14-2023, 03:09 PM)carp8dm Wrote: The thing I kept thinking to myself last week was how much the route running of our receivers didn't look anything like what we saw last year. 

Last year, there were crossing routes, there were 3 tiered level options for Trevor, and there was misdirection on at least down per sequence.  On top of that, I don't remember ever being able to predict a run/run/Pass sequence in 2022.  And even more concerning, in the first quarter, we saw a bubble screen that was blown up.  And then on 4th and short in the 2nd half we saw a similar bubble screen that was blown up.  Oh and don't get me started on the 3rd and 3 QB sneak, whether it was an audible or an actual play call matters not.  If at any point the OC had ingrained into Trevor Lawrence that a 3rd and long 2 is a perfectly fine time to audible to a QB dive, that OC is suspect.  If the OC called that QB dive on 3rd and a long 2?  That's gotta be something to be concerned about.

So on to KC.  A dynamic QB, a HC that is on par with our HC.  An offense that is getting back their best receiver.  A defense that is getting back their best pass rusher at a time when our O-Line is getting more and more knicked up...  It's gonna be a tough game to win. 

Our QB has to keep up with KC's offense.  It's a tough ask.  But I think we match up pretty evenly with these guys.  Our receivers are just as good if not better than theirs.  Our TE is maybe a tier lower, but our QB has better slot and wide outs. So long as the play calling is more like last year and less conservative like last week, we can keep it close into the 4th quarter.  If we keep it close, the home field advantage can get us the win.

Oh, and Jawaan Taylor...  His [BLEEP] needs to be called out.  If they force him to actually play on the line and not false start, we have a really good chance to be defensively competent.

It's one game

They now have a guy who can play X at a high level and Trevor was excited to feed him. 

They game plan differently every week 

You're reading way too much into it. It's the same offense with another premium target and hopefully a better spellback. They didn't re-write the playbook. They simply game planned for the colts differently than your preconceived notion based on how you think they did it last year. 

Just to show you how wrong you are with your run/run/pass misanalysis: 

Jags drive balance:
series one

PASS
PASS 
PASS

series two
RUN
PASS
RPO
PASS
PASS
RUN
GADGET TOSS 
PASS 
PASS (TD)

series three
RUN (8 yds)
PASS
RUN
PASS (tipped INT)

series four

RUN
RUN 
RUN

series five

PASS
RUN
RUN (1ST DOWN)
RUN
PASS
GADGET TOSS
PASS (TD) 

series 6

PASS
RUN
PASS
PASS
RUN
PASS (sacked on pass attempt)

series 7

RUN
PASS
PASS

OK - hopefully you are beginning to see the balance and how wrong your analysis is. 
They also had pre snap movement on 20-30% of the plays I just scrolled through in the first half.

Agreed. They usually run a well balanced game play calling wise. I do specifically remember [BLEEP] about series four though in the gameday thread. LOL. I was wondering if it was Jack Del Rio out there in jest. 

The one thing I honestly would like to see more of though is Lawrence doing more with rollouts, designed sprints and bootlegs. I feel like his best throws are honestly when he's on the move and not sitting back in the pocket.

Three of his best four throws in that game came from when he was on the move. The TD to Ridley, the bullet between two defenders to Ridley and a bootleg that ended up in Jones' hands I think at some point in Q4. The other great throw being of course the dime he put on Zay for a TD from the pocket.
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Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-10-2023, 05:35 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by RicoTx - 09-10-2023, 05:36 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Cleatwood - 09-10-2023, 05:41 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-10-2023, 05:42 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-10-2023, 05:40 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by MojoKing - 09-10-2023, 05:47 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-10-2023, 05:51 PM
Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-10-2023, 08:11 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-10-2023, 08:23 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jaguar Warrior - 09-10-2023, 08:24 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by MojoKing - 09-10-2023, 08:35 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by EricC85 - 09-10-2023, 10:58 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by MarleyJag - 09-11-2023, 04:30 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by jagsfan06 - 09-10-2023, 08:30 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-10-2023, 08:47 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by StrayaJag - 09-11-2023, 03:45 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-11-2023, 10:10 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-11-2023, 10:44 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-10-2023, 08:32 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by JagsFanSince95 - 09-11-2023, 10:48 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by iHaunting Raven - 09-10-2023, 08:54 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by JaguarJosh2 - 09-11-2023, 04:19 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by imtheblkranger - 09-11-2023, 09:40 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-11-2023, 11:16 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by imtheblkranger - 09-11-2023, 11:31 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by JW - 09-11-2023, 01:13 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Khan Artist - 09-11-2023, 01:43 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jaguarmeister - 09-11-2023, 01:59 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Cleatwood - 09-11-2023, 02:02 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-11-2023, 03:02 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jaguarmeister - 09-11-2023, 03:47 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-11-2023, 07:46 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by TheDuke007 - 09-11-2023, 08:41 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jaguarmeister - 09-11-2023, 05:14 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Mikey - 09-12-2023, 08:44 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-11-2023, 05:23 PM
Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-11-2023, 05:25 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jaguarmeister - 09-11-2023, 06:18 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-11-2023, 05:31 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-11-2023, 05:41 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jags32250 - 09-11-2023, 08:54 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jagulars - 09-11-2023, 05:55 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-11-2023, 06:07 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-11-2023, 06:18 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-11-2023, 06:56 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by jagsfan06 - 09-11-2023, 07:07 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by StrayaJag - 09-11-2023, 07:14 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by jaglou53 - 09-11-2023, 10:17 PM
Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by p_rushing - 09-11-2023, 10:50 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jaguar Warrior - 09-11-2023, 11:40 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by JaguarJosh2 - 09-12-2023, 01:38 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by MarleyJag - 09-12-2023, 06:31 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by JagFan81 - 09-12-2023, 09:01 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Cleatwood - 09-12-2023, 09:02 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-12-2023, 09:16 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-12-2023, 10:54 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jaguarmeister - 09-12-2023, 11:02 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Mikey - 09-13-2023, 08:38 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-12-2023, 09:44 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-12-2023, 11:08 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-12-2023, 11:40 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-12-2023, 12:55 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jaguarmeister - 09-12-2023, 01:24 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Mowerguy - 09-12-2023, 12:02 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by AlsJagsFan - 09-12-2023, 04:26 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by icey14 - 09-12-2023, 04:46 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag88 - 09-12-2023, 07:05 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-12-2023, 07:23 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-12-2023, 08:21 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jaguar Warrior - 09-12-2023, 08:35 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by OzJohnnie - 09-13-2023, 02:10 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by StrayaJag - 09-12-2023, 09:18 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Mikey - 09-13-2023, 10:24 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-13-2023, 10:58 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by JaguarJosh2 - 09-13-2023, 06:36 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-13-2023, 08:44 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-13-2023, 09:04 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flsprtsgod - 09-13-2023, 11:34 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by homebiscuit - 09-13-2023, 09:54 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-13-2023, 11:29 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-13-2023, 11:35 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-13-2023, 11:52 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-13-2023, 01:04 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-13-2023, 01:42 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jags32250 - 09-13-2023, 12:50 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-13-2023, 01:52 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by The Real Marty - 09-13-2023, 02:06 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-13-2023, 03:27 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Mikey - 09-14-2023, 08:45 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-13-2023, 02:07 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by OG-JAGFAN - 09-13-2023, 09:47 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by StrayaJag - 09-13-2023, 04:21 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-13-2023, 04:43 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-13-2023, 04:53 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by JaguarJosh2 - 09-13-2023, 11:16 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-13-2023, 07:05 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by MojoKing - 09-13-2023, 07:21 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-14-2023, 08:23 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by SamusAranX - 09-13-2023, 09:02 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by MarleyJag - 09-14-2023, 06:45 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-14-2023, 09:57 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by MarleyJag - 09-14-2023, 10:23 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Mikey - 09-15-2023, 08:07 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-13-2023, 10:02 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by JaguarJosh2 - 09-14-2023, 07:57 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by RicoTx - 09-14-2023, 09:15 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by homebiscuit - 09-14-2023, 08:34 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 09-14-2023, 09:10 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by Jagwired - 09-14-2023, 09:22 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by Jaguarmeister - 09-14-2023, 12:29 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 09-14-2023, 10:33 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by jaglou53 - 09-14-2023, 01:51 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-14-2023, 02:34 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by carp8dm - 09-14-2023, 03:09 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-14-2023, 04:13 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-14-2023, 04:46 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by carp8dm - 09-14-2023, 04:51 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-14-2023, 05:18 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by carp8dm - 09-14-2023, 06:27 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-14-2023, 06:46 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by carp8dm - 09-14-2023, 06:36 PM
copycat - by copycat - 09-14-2023, 06:45 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Cleatwood - 09-14-2023, 07:19 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jaguarmeister - 09-14-2023, 07:33 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag88 - 09-14-2023, 06:44 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-14-2023, 06:53 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by OG-JAGFAN - 09-14-2023, 07:46 PM
RE: copycat - by Caldrac - 09-14-2023, 08:31 PM
RE: copycat - by ChrisJagBoy - 09-14-2023, 10:54 PM
copycat - by copycat - 09-15-2023, 05:57 AM
RE: copycat - by flsprtsgod - 09-15-2023, 08:40 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by JaguarJosh2 - 09-15-2023, 05:32 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by homebiscuit - 09-15-2023, 07:03 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-15-2023, 08:14 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-15-2023, 08:31 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by MarleyJag - 09-15-2023, 12:58 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by cat bells - 09-15-2023, 08:35 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by homebiscuit - 09-15-2023, 08:38 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-15-2023, 10:09 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Mikey - 09-15-2023, 12:54 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by cat bells - 09-15-2023, 08:44 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-15-2023, 10:32 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-15-2023, 10:39 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Cleatwood - 09-15-2023, 10:40 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-15-2023, 10:43 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 09-15-2023, 10:45 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Mikey - 09-15-2023, 12:59 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-15-2023, 10:45 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-15-2023, 10:48 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-15-2023, 11:29 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-15-2023, 11:40 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Mikey - 09-15-2023, 01:05 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-15-2023, 01:44 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by SamusAranX - 09-15-2023, 11:48 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-15-2023, 12:02 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by homebiscuit - 09-15-2023, 12:06 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-15-2023, 12:21 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Cleatwood - 09-15-2023, 02:58 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by mikesez - 09-15-2023, 03:38 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-15-2023, 03:43 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by imtheblkranger - 09-15-2023, 03:54 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-15-2023, 04:15 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by mikesez - 09-15-2023, 06:02 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by ChrisJagBoy - 09-15-2023, 09:25 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 09-15-2023, 06:10 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 09-15-2023, 06:21 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 09-15-2023, 06:35 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by RicoTx - 09-15-2023, 07:43 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jagulars - 09-15-2023, 09:26 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Cleatwood - 09-15-2023, 09:46 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by RicoTx - 09-16-2023, 09:26 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by JagsFanSince95 - 09-16-2023, 10:50 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jagulars - 09-16-2023, 12:19 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by JagFanatic24 - 09-15-2023, 10:44 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by homebiscuit - 09-15-2023, 11:24 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by JagFan81 - 09-16-2023, 02:48 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Eric1 - 09-16-2023, 03:06 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by StrayaJag - 09-16-2023, 04:02 AM
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RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-16-2023, 07:26 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-16-2023, 10:52 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by ChrisJagBoy - 09-16-2023, 02:31 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by jagherd - 09-16-2023, 03:49 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by JagFan81 - 09-16-2023, 06:24 PM
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