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Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax


(09-14-2023, 04:51 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(09-14-2023, 04:13 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: It's one game

They now have a guy who can play X at a high level and Trevor was excited to feed him. 

They game plan differently every week 

You're reading way too much into it. It's the same offense with another premium target and hopefully a better spellback. They didn't re-write the playbook. They simply game planned for the colts differently than your preconceived notion based on how you think they did it last year. 

Just to show you how wrong you are with your run/run/pass misanalysis: 

Jags drive balance:
series one

PASS
PASS 
PASS

series two
RUN
PASS
RPO
PASS
PASS
RUN
GADGET TOSS 
PASS 
PASS (TD)

series three
RUN (8 yds)
PASS
RUN
PASS (tipped INT)

series four

RUN
RUN 
RUN

series five

PASS
RUN
RUN (1ST DOWN)
RUN
PASS
GADGET TOSS
PASS (TD) 

series 6

PASS
RUN
PASS
PASS
RUN
PASS (sacked on pass attempt)

series 7

RUN
PASS
PASS

OK - hopefully you are beginning to see the balance and how wrong your analysis is. 
They also had pre snap movement on 20-30% of the plays I just scrolled through in the first half.

Yes.  It was one game.  I'm hoping that this game was conservative because we are saving our real game plan for KC...  But let's not act like this game plan was good.  It wasn't.  Telling me that there were "PASS PASS RUN" instead of "run, run, pass" means nothing, if you are being honest.  The Play calling in the 2nd and 3rd quarters were bad.  Period.  It was easy to sniff out, and if you don't believe that, then I'm not sure you were actually watching the game.  

Again, where were the route concepts from last year????  The entire game was devoid of all the routes that cooked defenses last year.  It was as if they were purposely playing a vanilla game.  If you didn't recognize that, then maybe you weren't really watching last year?

I'm not sure why you think your analysis of the conservative play calling blows up my critique when you give the most basic analysis while not providing the full description of how those "pass" plays were not conservative and easy to defend.   A pass that is behind the line of scrimmage isn't really a pass, is it?  A run play when the colts are stacking the box is a bad play call, isn't it?  

Do you really think that the 3rd Quarter was a well called quarter???  If you actually watched the game, the First Quarter looked pretty solid, though I would also say that our QB was a bit too focused on throwing to Ridley when Kirk was open in the slot a couple times.  But the end of 2nd and all of the 3rd Quarter, in terms of offensive play calling was not good.   

The game was the game.  We out classed the clots.  But the game was close because our offense was conservative and unlike what we saw in 2022.  We pulled away in the 4th quarter when the defense helped us get better field position.  The offensive line hurt Trevor and the entire 3rd quarter was a [BLEEP] show of conservative play calling in order to protect the QB.   

Just because a play call is "PASS", if the "PASS" is a 3 step drop and quick release just 3 yards from the LOS, it may as well be a run play.  And in the 3rd quarter, all those "PASS" plays were squashed because the play calling was soft.  But I'm sure you know better than me why that was.  Either way, the play calling was crap for about 30 minutes.  There's no way you can say otherwise. I CAN AND I DID

We won the game, and that is all that matters.  I'm not down on any of our players.  But the offensive play calling and the route concepts we say in week one were not similar to what we saw last year.  You know it.  I know it.  And it's a concern.

LOL

Please tell me you understand we are running the same playbook we ran last year? 

What I KNOW - is that we trotted out a ton of the same stuff and you apparently missed it. 

Here you go: (third quarter routes!)

x and F (really Engram in the Z) on go routes outside - Y on a comeback middle and Z (really Zay in the F) on a deep cross (just like last year) 
[Image: 3rdroutes.png]

X and z run deep outside  - Y (Kirk) on a deep seam - F on a post - just like last year

[Image: 3rdroutes1.png]

TE on a depp crosser - X, Y and Z on comebacks (both Zay and Kirk racked up many first downs on these last year) 
[Image: 3rdroutes2.png]

ONE MORE COMING

Same Crossing Route we saw Kirk run last year a gazillion times!!
All of these are from that horribly called third quarter as you call it

[Image: routes3rd4.png]
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Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-10-2023, 05:35 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by RicoTx - 09-10-2023, 05:36 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Cleatwood - 09-10-2023, 05:41 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-10-2023, 05:42 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-10-2023, 05:40 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by MojoKing - 09-10-2023, 05:47 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-10-2023, 05:51 PM
Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-10-2023, 08:11 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-10-2023, 08:23 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jaguar Warrior - 09-10-2023, 08:24 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by MojoKing - 09-10-2023, 08:35 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by EricC85 - 09-10-2023, 10:58 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by MarleyJag - 09-11-2023, 04:30 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by jagsfan06 - 09-10-2023, 08:30 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-10-2023, 08:47 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by StrayaJag - 09-11-2023, 03:45 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-11-2023, 10:10 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-11-2023, 10:44 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-10-2023, 08:32 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by JagsFanSince95 - 09-11-2023, 10:48 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by iHaunting Raven - 09-10-2023, 08:54 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by JaguarJosh2 - 09-11-2023, 04:19 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by imtheblkranger - 09-11-2023, 09:40 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-11-2023, 11:16 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by imtheblkranger - 09-11-2023, 11:31 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by JW - 09-11-2023, 01:13 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Khan Artist - 09-11-2023, 01:43 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jaguarmeister - 09-11-2023, 01:59 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Cleatwood - 09-11-2023, 02:02 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-11-2023, 03:02 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jaguarmeister - 09-11-2023, 03:47 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-11-2023, 07:46 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by TheDuke007 - 09-11-2023, 08:41 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jaguarmeister - 09-11-2023, 05:14 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Mikey - 09-12-2023, 08:44 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-11-2023, 05:23 PM
Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-11-2023, 05:25 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jaguarmeister - 09-11-2023, 06:18 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-11-2023, 05:31 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-11-2023, 05:41 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jags32250 - 09-11-2023, 08:54 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jagulars - 09-11-2023, 05:55 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-11-2023, 06:07 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-11-2023, 06:18 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-11-2023, 06:56 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by jagsfan06 - 09-11-2023, 07:07 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by StrayaJag - 09-11-2023, 07:14 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by jaglou53 - 09-11-2023, 10:17 PM
Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by p_rushing - 09-11-2023, 10:50 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jaguar Warrior - 09-11-2023, 11:40 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by JaguarJosh2 - 09-12-2023, 01:38 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by MarleyJag - 09-12-2023, 06:31 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by JagFan81 - 09-12-2023, 09:01 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Cleatwood - 09-12-2023, 09:02 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-12-2023, 09:16 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-12-2023, 10:54 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jaguarmeister - 09-12-2023, 11:02 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Mikey - 09-13-2023, 08:38 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-12-2023, 09:44 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-12-2023, 11:08 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-12-2023, 11:40 AM
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RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jaguarmeister - 09-12-2023, 01:24 PM
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RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag88 - 09-12-2023, 07:05 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-12-2023, 07:23 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-12-2023, 08:21 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jaguar Warrior - 09-12-2023, 08:35 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by OzJohnnie - 09-13-2023, 02:10 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by StrayaJag - 09-12-2023, 09:18 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Mikey - 09-13-2023, 10:24 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-13-2023, 10:58 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by JaguarJosh2 - 09-13-2023, 06:36 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-13-2023, 08:44 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-13-2023, 09:04 AM
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RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by homebiscuit - 09-13-2023, 09:54 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-13-2023, 11:29 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-13-2023, 11:35 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-13-2023, 11:52 AM
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RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-13-2023, 01:42 PM
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RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-13-2023, 01:52 PM
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RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-13-2023, 03:27 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Mikey - 09-14-2023, 08:45 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-13-2023, 02:07 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by OG-JAGFAN - 09-13-2023, 09:47 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by StrayaJag - 09-13-2023, 04:21 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-13-2023, 04:43 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-13-2023, 04:53 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by JaguarJosh2 - 09-13-2023, 11:16 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-13-2023, 07:05 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by MojoKing - 09-13-2023, 07:21 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-14-2023, 08:23 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by SamusAranX - 09-13-2023, 09:02 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by MarleyJag - 09-14-2023, 06:45 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-14-2023, 09:57 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by MarleyJag - 09-14-2023, 10:23 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Mikey - 09-15-2023, 08:07 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-13-2023, 10:02 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by JaguarJosh2 - 09-14-2023, 07:57 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by RicoTx - 09-14-2023, 09:15 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by homebiscuit - 09-14-2023, 08:34 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 09-14-2023, 09:10 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by Jagwired - 09-14-2023, 09:22 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by Jaguarmeister - 09-14-2023, 12:29 PM
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RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by jaglou53 - 09-14-2023, 01:51 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-14-2023, 02:34 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by carp8dm - 09-14-2023, 03:09 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-14-2023, 04:13 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-14-2023, 04:46 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by carp8dm - 09-14-2023, 04:51 PM
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RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jaguarmeister - 09-14-2023, 07:33 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag88 - 09-14-2023, 06:44 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-14-2023, 06:53 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by OG-JAGFAN - 09-14-2023, 07:46 PM
RE: copycat - by Caldrac - 09-14-2023, 08:31 PM
RE: copycat - by ChrisJagBoy - 09-14-2023, 10:54 PM
copycat - by copycat - 09-15-2023, 05:57 AM
RE: copycat - by flsprtsgod - 09-15-2023, 08:40 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by JaguarJosh2 - 09-15-2023, 05:32 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by homebiscuit - 09-15-2023, 07:03 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by flgatorsandjags - 09-15-2023, 08:14 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-15-2023, 08:31 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by MarleyJag - 09-15-2023, 12:58 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by cat bells - 09-15-2023, 08:35 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by homebiscuit - 09-15-2023, 08:38 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-15-2023, 10:09 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Mikey - 09-15-2023, 12:54 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by cat bells - 09-15-2023, 08:44 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-15-2023, 10:32 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-15-2023, 10:39 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Cleatwood - 09-15-2023, 10:40 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-15-2023, 10:43 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 09-15-2023, 10:45 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Mikey - 09-15-2023, 12:59 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-15-2023, 10:45 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-15-2023, 10:48 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by NYC4jags - 09-15-2023, 11:29 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-15-2023, 11:40 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Mikey - 09-15-2023, 01:05 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-15-2023, 01:44 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by SamusAranX - 09-15-2023, 11:48 AM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-15-2023, 12:02 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by homebiscuit - 09-15-2023, 12:06 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-15-2023, 12:21 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Cleatwood - 09-15-2023, 02:58 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by mikesez - 09-15-2023, 03:38 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jag149 - 09-15-2023, 03:43 PM
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RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Caldrac - 09-15-2023, 04:15 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by mikesez - 09-15-2023, 06:02 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by ChrisJagBoy - 09-15-2023, 09:25 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 09-15-2023, 06:10 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 09-15-2023, 06:21 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 09-15-2023, 06:35 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by RicoTx - 09-15-2023, 07:43 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Jagulars - 09-15-2023, 09:26 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by Cleatwood - 09-15-2023, 09:46 PM
RE: Week 2 talk: KC vs Jax - by RicoTx - 09-16-2023, 09:26 AM
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