(10-17-2023, 10:54 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:

(10-17-2023, 06:07 PM)mikesez Wrote: Would you have felt the same if Matt Gaetz was your rep?

Gaetz voted out McCarthy because he went against his word supposedly. Rutherford literally said he wouldn't support anyone Gaetz was supporting. One of those is a breach of contract. The other is just pettiness. I realize that nuance is lost on you, but I'm not going to support the latter. I wish Rutheford cared half as much about single item bills as he does about defending McCarthy's honor.

Nuance is never lost on me.  I see every nuance every time.  It's exhausting.
It's not pettiness, it's trying to avoid setting a bad precedent.  
But, at the end of the day they both put their personal preferences over the party consensus and voted against their party and against the House doing any business at all.  And they both did so without any clear plans of what happens next. Either both are inexcusable or both can be excused.
I would criticize both of them for not having any plan.  That's the biggest problem . I think both Gaetz's desire to hold McCarthy to his word and Rutherford's desire to punish people who go against the party's speaker are commendable, but both of them need to think about the good of the country more and both of them need to be more willing to work with Democrats.  But regardless of the why, they both should have thought more than 1 step ahead.

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