(11-09-2023, 06:06 PM)MarleyJag Wrote:

(11-09-2023, 12:34 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: Cult-like lololol

That's cute.. I think there's a bit more people in this group than your standard cult lol

There’s literally nothing that could make the core group of supporters abandon him. That type of unquestioning devotion is rarely seen outside of…well, cults of personality. Large cults of personality, especially in politics, isn’t that uncommon. Almost always ends badly.

On political orientation though, Haley and Scott are closer to traditional Republicanism than any of the other candidates in my opinion.

I agree. This is true of most politicians, though. I was literally arguing with a professor at an ivy league school, and she said to me, "I will never be for THAT side. I will ALWAYS support my side." This was after I pointed out that even if she thinks Gaetz is the biggest loser in the world, isn't it a win for the people if he could get through something that reformed omnibus bills?

Trump is odd, because he's so outside of the norm, that I think we are able to pick up trends that have always existed but are so common that we overlook them. The other thing that makes it weird is Trump is rare among conservatives in his willingness to fight back. This is what creates his rabid fanbase. Politics should never be a "this" side or "that" side always. Lesser of two evils is killing us. 

So, while I think it's true that Trump has cult-like followers, it's also true of conservatives, liberals, and progressives. We have consistently seen large swaths of people overlook severe deficiencies in talent, ethics, mental cognizance, etc. in the name of "my side always."

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(11-09-2023, 06:31 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(11-09-2023, 04:32 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Lol. You think I missed your point? I didn't. I just don't care about that. She picked the fight about him using TikTok. He said said he uses it to reach young people. She says it's un-American. He says her daughter uses it. She says low blow. There is nothing vicious about that exchange. I would say the same thing to any of my friends.

It's odd you two would take her side on this, considering it's usually conservatives who are anti TikTok.

He said she needed to control her own house which is very much a thing you don't say to a person with adult children.

Why? She is accusing him of being anti-American. Are her own children anti-American? Think about what the argument is about. It's a solid defense.

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