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Mike Caldwell Discussion Thread (Terminated)

(This post was last modified: 12-13-2023, 03:26 PM by Caldrac. Edited 1 time in total.)

(12-13-2023, 12:00 PM)SeldomRite Wrote:
(12-13-2023, 09:58 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Asking our secondary to play more man coverage is akin to asking our OL to turn into a road-grading power run unit. 

You could try it, but it won't end well.

We just don't have the personnel. 
Caldwell began his tenure in Jax running lots more man coverage than we do now. It didn't work. It was after the bye week last season that the shift to mostly zone found its footing and we haven't looked back. 

You'll see the outside corners playing press or off man a fair amount with the others in zone a fair amount, but they won't flat out man up across the board very often because our nickels and safeties get roasted.

Correct, the Jaguars have great coaching, Caldwell, too, the problems we're having are talent related.

Not sure I completely agree with the portions above in bold. We certainly don't have bad coaching, but, I wouldn't consider it great neither. I could argue that the talent issue is misleading to some degree and that in fact, it has been coaching, especially with Caldwell. 

If you look at the three biggest games this defense has let up in all year? It came against three really good, high quality offensive play callers that also just so happen to headcoach their respective teams. Shanahan with the 49ers, Taylor with the Bengals and Stefanski with the Browns. 

Caldwell was outcoached in those three outings. You're saying it's a talent issue, when, this same group was #1 or high up there against the run and leading the NFL in takeaways at one point. In my opinion, sure, you can point to a few things that are obvious where the defense appears to be void of talent. 

Interior defensive line as a unit? It [BLEEP] sucks.
The secondary at times? It can be suspect. 

A lot of that though above? It's maybe injury related as well but we've seen guys like Wingard and Johnson jump right on in from being on the bench or doing special team's work and make key plays to get the football back. It's a soup of a lot of things. But, in the three biggest defensive showings that were the most piss poor?

Caldwell was schooled by some of the best offensive minds in football in just his 2nd year as an actual coordinator. He's far from great.
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