(12-19-2023, 06:21 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote:

(12-19-2023, 11:59 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: If you play the entire clip, toward the end (the 1:11 mark) they show the overhead view.  You can see clearly they performed a stunt on Scherff and Fortner.  That's probably still an unfair edit for someone with a [BLEEP] agenda though.  It looks like Scherff correctly disengaged Madubuike to pick up the otherwise free rusher thinking Fortner would continue blocking or at least slowing down Madubuike as he should have, but Fortner was left standing around.  That's probably on Fortner and to be fair it was also good defensive play design and initial penetration by Madubuike.  There's no alignment the defense can present that tips a stunt. The o-line has to diagnose that on the fly and adjust correctly.  This had nothing to do with Trevor "changing assignments".  

Here's a better clip for you.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHipzGL4dwM

Nice cope, bro.  I notice you don’t provide a clip of the entire snap as we saw live on TV.  The overhead shot does not include the entire snap.  Additionally, it doesn’t include the audio where the line is looking back at TL confused and Lawrence can be clearly heard yelling, “We’re good!   We’re good!  Hut, hut, hut!”

Next thing we know, you’ll graduate from Jim “You guys don’t know what we want to do” Mora to Denny “They are who we thought they were” Green.


He should have called a time out.  Rather than panicking with two seconds on the snap clock, he should have realised that the line did not understand his called out assignments and that standing with his back to the goal line and three timeouts still on the board, it was time to use one.  Instead, the linemen were confused over who TL wanted blocking who, Baltimore came running through every gap and TL was concussed with an intentional grounding (again - he has a habit).

The guy cannot read a play before the snap.  He’s not a general.  He’s just a position player.  Not good enough for NFL QB.

Sorry, I had extended a level of credit to you that we were operating on the same level, but I can see now that we're not and that you either lack some basic understanding or are willfully ignoring the obvious.  Do you know what a stunt is?  Are you aware that QBs (who can't possibly know that a defensive player is going to stunt) don't call out that a defensive lineman is going to stunt pre-snap to their offensive line?  

Once we're operating on the same understanding there, it becomes clear you don't need anything else audio or visual wise to know the stunt is what sprung Madubuike who was the defensive end who made the play to slam Trevor to the ground.  Nothing Trevor said or did pre-snap contributed to Madubuike breaking through which was the [BLEEP] premise of your post.  All offensive linemen were correctly engaging the person they should have been engaging until a combination of Madubuike getting great push and leverage on Scherff and the other defender stunted around him which caused Scherff to disengage to the stunting player leaving Madubuike to Fortner who had already been beaten because he didn't immediately recognize it.  There was no visible confusion pre-snap or immediately after the snap (which is your premise).  All o-linemen initially correctly engaged the pass rusher they were supposed to.  It's the o-line's responsibility to diagnose the stunt on the fly, not the QBs.  There are legitimate criticisms to levy at Trevor, no doubt, but the example you attempt to paint here is taking liberties with the unknowable, but again, your posting history and timing suggest taking liberties with the unknowable is par for the course.

The "we're good we're good" line could have easily been an acknowledgement (and probably was) that there were no blitzers coming (Do you know what a blitz is?) and that no one needed to pick up anyone extra specifically.  It was 4 defensive linemen that beat 5 offensive linemen (because Madubuike is good and because of the stunt and also because Fortner and maybe even Scherff are bad).  The other defenders at the line pre-snap dropped into coverage.  But that interpretation would be Trevor reading the defense properly pre-snap and we can't have that now can we?  Hence, you don't know and you never will.

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