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Fire Baalke Thread 2023-2024

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(12-28-2023, 12:30 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(12-28-2023, 12:02 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Nah - I don't think that was the plan. 
They simply needed a Y TE who could at least be considered a receiving threat by defenses so Engram didn't get locked in the radar of opponents in 12 or 13 looks.  Of course - they picked the wrong one and too early. But giving Strange 6 targets a game was never the intention.

You kept harping on Doug's offense being all about two TEs.
That is a myth. 
Multiple receiving TEs are no more important in Doug's offense than in 14 other schemes being run around the league. 
He just happened to get really good TE production for 2 years in Philly because he only had one good receiver. 
How ppl can't put that together is astounding to me. He merely targeted the best guys he had - which happened to be 1 WR and 2 TE. 
He's stated in multiple pressers that his offense isn't about one position group and he tailors his playbook every season to the guys he has. 
If his system was all about two TEs as you kept oddly insisting - Engram would not have 10 times more targets than any other TE on the roster.
He absolutely wants to run more 2 TE sets he just doesn't have the talent to do it and why he drafted a TE in the 2nd. You don't take a player in the 2nd to play a couple times a game.   I never said his offense is about 1 position group, you are just throwing [BLEEP] on the wall again hoping it sticks as usual.  I have said he uses the TE position better and likes to use it more than most coaches like like Reid, he just doesn't have the talent to do it.  Engram has 10 times more targets than any other TE becuase he has nothing behind him.  If we had another stud TE the numbers would be much closer.  It's crazy i have to explain this to you over and over lol

Doug had much bigger plans for Strange this year he just hasn't been good enough and it hasn't turned out the way he planned

LOL

"want to run more 2 TE sets"

They run plenty of 2 and 3 TE sets. 

That is not the point. You said they were going to use him like LaPorta and in other posts you brought up Goedert/Ertz. 

Doug's system is NOT built around targeting 2 TEs a total of 12-15 times per game like you seem to think it is. 
That's ridiculous. 
You don't plan to target TEs that way when you have Ridley/Kirk/Jones. 

Lately they've targeted Engram near that because Pederson is back to the same problem he had in Philly. Only one healthy receiver. LOL

Here's what happened with Strange:
They needed a guy that could block in line as well as Farrell or Manhertz but be more of a threat to leak out for an occasional target.  That's it. 
That's exactly how they have attempted to use him and he has been very inconsistent and of course now he's been hurt for multiple weeks. 

You assumed he'd be some integral part of the passing offense and that was never the plan. 

You're not explaining something to me, you're just making a false assumption about Pederson's intent with the TEs on this roster.
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