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Fire Baalke Thread 2023-2024

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(This post was last modified: 12-28-2023, 02:15 PM by Caldrac.)

(12-28-2023, 01:58 PM)jessepeck1213 Wrote:
(12-28-2023, 01:42 PM)Caldrac Wrote: It's a two pronged issue. 

1. You invested the 61st pick on him. 
2. You're not getting the most out of him because your offensive line is hot garbage.

It's aggravating. They could have went:
24th pick on Dalton Kincaid at TE.
56th pick on O'Cyrus Torrence at LG.
88th pick on Dawand Jones at RT.
121st pick on somebody like Nacua or Wicks at WR.

You get your receiving threat at TE to pair with Engram. You get your LG situation upgraded and your RT situation resolved.

You get a WR that either sets the NFL on fire like Nacua, which, won't assume he does that here, but, it's possible. But, Wicks? He's got 500+ yards already as a rookie.

Would have been really good depth on this team compared to the depth we have behind the starters who are in and out of the line-up now.

Hindsight is always 20/20 and we could play what ifs all day. Tight end more than any position usually has a steeper learning curve from college to the nfl. Rarely do you see tight ends come in and light it up from day one. I expect a big jump in his game next year.

That is true. Hindsight is always 20/20 and when we all look back sometimes things can look fuzzy. However, that's my problem. Baalke is PAID to make these evaluations. Baalke is PAID to create a draft board. Baalke's scouting department is PAID to find these players. Pederson is PAID to look at this roster and scout to some extent on his own. 

While I also hope and expect a big jump in year two for basically 70% of this team's 14 draft selections from April of this year? It's still a bummer that they failed massively in scouting, evaluating, looking ahead and understanding short term Vs. long term value and jars on the shelf Vs. immediate returns on investments. 

This team had no business taking guys like Strange, Bigsby & Miller as early as they did. Didn't make sense back in April. CLEARLY makes no sense now in December. TE might have a steeper learning curve, but, how is that the rest of those teams found their guy right off the bat already before the 61st pick and after the 61st pick?

That's the catch. That's the problem. Baalke and Co. are being out scouted, out performed and out worked. They had ample enough selections to find more impact players than they did back in April. It cannot be overstated enough. I don't think any other team had 14 draft picks back in April.

(12-28-2023, 02:09 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I can't remember the weeks but earlier in the season they started to use him more and more in a few games and each time he was given the opportunity he was making mistakes.  I was calling him out on it and they started taking his playing time back away and giving it to Farrell

He had one really good game and showing on the road win against the tinhorns. That's all I can really recall out of him outside of that wide open TD pass he caught at home. I know he had some type of injury, his foot was in a boot at some point. 

I don't know. Just seems like a dud of a selection with the 61st overall choice.
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