(01-16-2024, 03:49 PM)copycat Wrote:

(01-15-2024, 07:23 PM)mikesez Wrote: OK, I'm just going to focus on this "few bad apples" thing, and flesh that out.  Please confirm or deny each additional fact I present.

1) The "few bad apples" numbered over 2000 who not only passed the barricades outside but also entered the building.  
You did see the video of DC’s finest pulling barricades and waving people in right?
2) These "few bad apples" got within 100 feet of members of Congress and the Vice President.
And did what?
3) These "few bad apples" intended to reach those officials and intended to harm them or prevent them from doing their jobs.
100% conjecture on your part
4) This was one of only three days of the entire 4 year cycle of our Constitution that required all of those members to be present and sign off on who would be in power for the Constitution to continue.  The other two days like that in the 4 year cycle are New Year's Day of any odd numbered year.
And?
Now questions:

Q15) You insist that none of these 2000 people are insurrectionists.  What does the word insurrection mean? What is an additional act, that if they had done it that day, would make it an insurrection in your mind? That's addressing the contrapositive.  No declaration can be true if the contrapositive is false.
Nope never said that at all.  I’m sure there were a few with ill intent.  That does not make the protest an insurrection something you have declared.  In fact we have observed one individual inciting violence and calling for people to storm the capitol building.  Curiously he got a slap on the wrist for his involvement.
Q26) Do we apply the law equally?  If a Democrat mob had done all of these things above, and left you doubting for 4 hours if the Constitution would remain in effect or not, that would be OK? Those Democrats could all run for office again?
We observed democrats assaulting police, storming police stations, fire bombing buildings, looting, rioting and burning all in the name of protest.  Allegedly some of the leaders of those protests rode their notoriety all the way to elected office.  You tell me, is the law being applied equally?

It’s painfully obvious to everyone, well almost everyone here that you don’t care about the law or justice as long as Trump is stopped.  Anything standing in the way of that is just an inconvenience.

1. "The police let me in" does not excuse anyone for crimes committed while inside.
   
2. The insurrectionists were verbally threatening Pence and Pelosi and others.
   
3. "These people will follow through on their angry threats" is not conjecture.  It's common sense.
   
4. Just making sure you understand the time and place are important. Don't try to compare this to a protest at a different place at a different time.
   
5. If even one of the people present was an insurrectionist, the event is an insurrection, and anyone else present who did not try to hinder that insurrectionist should be suspected of insurrection as well.  Punishment usually depends on level of cooperation with prosecutors.
   
6. Name these Democrats who broke the law during protests and ended up winning office afterwards.  I would love to know.