(01-25-2024, 08:50 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote:

(01-24-2024, 06:47 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Yeah - we do know

There is testimony on record from multiple Trump aides and cabinet members that were there following his speech. 

He threw a hissy fit because the secret service wouldn't let him march on the capitol. Even lunging at one of the agents. 
When they got him back to the the WH he threw a container of ketchup at the wall and continued his little tantrum for some time before settling in to watch Fox News for hours while his aides urged him to go downstairs to the briefing area arranged for him and address the insurrectionists. He refused long enough to let people die.

Fair enough. I certainly didn't follow every single bit of information about the whole thing here or in the media. 

Pelosi still failed to do her job as the person in charge of the Capitol and its police force. 

Those people's deaths are just as much on her as they are on him. To think otherwise is inexplicable.