(03-03-2024, 03:35 PM)anonymous2112 Wrote:

(03-02-2024, 02:53 AM)Caldrac Wrote: He's a good athlete for his size and position. Production is there. Didn't do the bench but if his neck injury is cleared medically he'll be a top 15 pick.

Didn't have him on my radar because I don't think he falls to 17 personally.

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Every recent mock I've seen has him falling to pick 20 or beyond.  I have an interest in guys at positions the Jags aren't targeting, like QBs and edge rushers, because when they move up someone else has to fall.  That's the way it went in the mocks that have Odunze and Fashanu being available at 17. 

Was thinking of making a thread about this, but I'll put it here instead.  These are the players that I have 100% certainty will not be there when the Jags pick:

GROUP 1

Caleb Williams
Jayden Daniels
Drake Maye
Marvin Harrison Jr.
Joe Alt
Malik Nabers
Dallas Turner
Jared Verse

So there's 9 players off our board.  These are the players I am 75% certain will be gone by pick 17:

GROUP 2

Rome Odunze
Olumomiya Fashanu
Terrion Arnold
Quinyon Mitchell (he's flying up the board)
JJ McCarthy

That's another 5, making for 14 total.  That means there will be only 2 of the following off the board when the Jags pick:

GROUP 3

Taliese Fuaga
JC Latham
Nate Wiggins
Brock Bowers
Bo Nix
Troy Fautanu
Laiatu Latu
Cooper DeJean

That means that every time a guy from Group 3 gets picked ahead of pick 17 (Nix, Bowers, or Fuaga, maybe?), we are that much closer to getting one from Group 2.  I'm starting to think there's no way even Gene Smith could screw this 1st rounder up.

I agree totally with your thinking. I commented on the thread " 4 options at 17" that trading back will be a great opportunity for the Jaguars to address most, if not all, of their critical needs and still get good value.

Of the players you mention, there are a few that I'd place in a different group. McCarthy should be in group 1 and Bowers and Fuaga in group 2. Among this group, I could definitely see a team wanting to trade up for Fuaga, Wiggins and possibly Latu. You don't mention Newton and Murphy, but both of these players are 1st round caliber and would meet a critical need for the Jaguars. Bottom line, you are correct that it would be very difficult to not end up with a very good pick in round 1. My hope, however, is that they can maximize the value of pick 17 by trading back at least once like they did last year.

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