(04-07-2024, 08:49 PM)mikesez Wrote: The number one thing for me is every ounce of forgiveness given to former students who ended up in lower income jobs needs to be matched with an ounce of pain for the schools that take so much money and fail to provide sufficiently useful educations.  If we're talking about underpaid public servants like teachers or public defenders or doctors serving underserved populations for free, that should be an ongoing grant program of some sort.  If we're talking about degrees in engineering or business where the careers should be lucrative, and the school fails to set them up right, the schools should feel pain for that.