(04-11-2024, 05:40 PM)Sneakers Wrote:

(04-11-2024, 03:34 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: I admire Chinese immigrants.  Heck, I married one.  But her guns aren't going to do her damn bit of good if the government, in her words, "becomes tyrannical."  I'm not saying I'm in favor of gun control.  I'm just saying that having guns in order to defend yourself against the government is pure fantasy.

Haven't you been telling us for years that a small group of protesters, possibly armed with a handful of guns, came dangerously close to overthrowing the government on Jan 6th?

(04-11-2024, 05:13 PM)homebiscuit Wrote:

(04-11-2024, 03:34 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: I admire Chinese immigrants.  Heck, I married one.  But her guns aren't going to do her damn bit of good if the government, in her words, "becomes tyrannical."  I'm not saying I'm in favor of gun control.  I'm just saying that having guns in order to defend yourself against the government is pure fantasy.

It comes down to the ease at which a government could become tyrannical over a populace that was unarmed and with a mindset that being unarmed is virtuous, as opposed to an armed populace which firmly believes in the right to bear arms. That's important because the military and police, which would be the enforcers of that tyranny, come from the same populace. The same applies to government functionaries as well. 

In other words, it's not so much about the guns themselves, but the mindset of the populace and the beliefs associated with gun ownership.

That could be more eloquently explained. I'm having a run-on sentence day.