(04-12-2024, 08:32 AM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote:

(04-12-2024, 07:21 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Of course I do not consider my deeply held beliefs as delusions.  If I considered them delusions, I wouldn't believe them.  

But I would say that if I believed that my gun would defend me from a tyrannical government, that would be delusional. 

So when you say, "...it's not so much about the guns themselves, but the mindset of the populace and the beliefs associated with gun ownership..." if you are including the belief that a personal weapon would defend you from a tyrannical government, I would say anyone who believes that is delusional.  And then I take it from your statement that you are saying that what I call delusional nevertheless has some value.  


 

So just give up and take it? Defeated before you try. What a great mindset. If you think other countries wouldn't provide weaponry (ya know like Ukraine) you clearly underestimate how much the world hates our government