(04-12-2024, 10:28 AM)mikesez Wrote:

(04-12-2024, 08:51 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: I did state that my thoughts weren’t presented as eloquently as I wished. 

What I’m saying is a government can’t choose to be tyrannical and then magically achieve it. That government would need the support of the military and the police because tyrannical governments rule from the barrel of a gun. 

The point I was making is if a majority of the police and military believe in the right of citizens to bear arms, how does said government achieve its tyranny.

Exactly right.  It's not just the guns themselves, it's what ordinary people in the police force and out everywhere in society believe about those guns, that makes tyranny unlikely.

Similarly, it's not so much the number of people who turned out on January 6 that is important, it's more important to note that the police and national guard they met didn't *believe* their claims about the election.  But what if the police and national guard did believe them?