(06-11-2024, 10:54 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:

(06-11-2024, 10:47 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: We almost all saw it live. There were bad actors there, certainly. Two things can be true at once. January 6th wasn't an insurrection, and there were some violent, angry people there. Hell, even if they found a few people who were actively conspiring to take over the government of the US, it doesn't make J6 an insurrection. 

I guess my point is that we don't need to paint it as an entirely peaceful day to say that Marty and Mike's interpretation of the events are incomplete and slanted. In fact, we do better by just owning the warts of it. Yeah, some people broke windows and shoved cops. Yes, there was yelling, and climbing and breaching. Yes, some of them wanted to stop the certification. You're talking a small, small fraction of the entirety. Those people got all the coverage. The news fixated on ratings, not truth. The 3 letter agencies were also heavily involved. At least some of the more disturbing images and known antifa affiliates involved. Yes, some right wingers got drawn in by that and carried away. 

By and large, it was just people upset at our government for turning a blind eye to their concerns, who marched on Washington, walked through the Capitol building, and went home. Yet, for some reason, moderates are duped into equivocating the actions of the 1% (if that), with those of the many, effectively lumping a genuine movement in with the radicals.

Wrong occurred, but it wasn't Trump's fault.

He told them to go to the Capitol.  He told them to cheer for the lawmakers they agreed with and jeer the ones they didn't agree with.  How are they going to do that when the building was locked, no visitors were allowed, and no projection screen was set up outside?

You have to get really technical and feign stupidity to claim that it wasn't Trump's fault that people started assaulting cops to try to break into the building.

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