(06-11-2024, 01:19 PM)Caldrac Wrote:

(06-11-2024, 01:09 PM)mikesez Wrote: So why do you think Pelosi's mistake matters in any way?

Goes back to the whole "Leaving the gate open for the enemy" belief. If you were in a position to change the outcome of something, the power was in your hands to fortify a situation, and, you chose not to, what does that say about you? 

Other than the obvious. Which was, you had an agenda, you adopted the "Never let a good crisis go to waste" sentiment there. It's a [BLEEP] thing to do really, however, if I am being fair?

Politically? I would have done the same. If I knew that would lead to a firestorm of allegations, public finger pointing, a primary talking point to establish myself four years in advance to prepare for the next election?

Yeah, absolutely, I would do the same thing. There's no such thing as playing fair in politics. Never has been really. People should have learned this lesson when they read the demise of Ceasar and how the senate stabbed him to death. 

I would have went after Clinton, Obama and Pelosi years ago. On actual charges that could be backed by facts or came up with trumped up charges, etc. You have to fight fire with fire sometimes. 

Trump talked a big game back in 2016. If he does that again in 2024 I want that game backed up with teeth this time. Because his critics and political rivals absolutely held nothing back and went full tilt in doing everything they could to keep him from being on this year's ballot.

There's still five months left for them to pull more rabbit tricks out of their hat. The hypocrisy is rich though. Clinton with her body count, the bathroom web access, the deletion of emails, Pelosi with her insider trading information more than likely, something Martha Stewart got buried for, and then Obama, drone striking people on American soil without any charges provided to them, etc. 

There's a lot of foolery like that with our Government. As much as people like to give into the fear mongering of Russia and China? When Russia and China tell you that the west is corrupt and full of [BLEEP]? And that they deploy a number of tactics to [BLEEP] over their rivals? They're not lying. 

We get a front row seat to it here in the United States. We just all roll over like a good little [BLEEP] and take it. That's why I keep pushing for us ALL to get along, for us ALL to figure this out, instead of getting into this two party nonsense that has landed us in the mess we're in now. 

We're losing our country and we have nobody but ourselves to blame for this.

That's all interesting but which part exonerates Trump?

Let's suppose that we're walking down a busy street and we both notice a completely naked, beautiful woman walking towards us.  I decide to approach her and grope her all over.  She screams "stop! I don't know this man!" A cop sees it.  He says I'm under arrest.  I say, "officer, this is entrapment! She came out here naked to make me do that!" 

What would the cop say? Would I still be in trouble?

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